Loser Jihadists

[Gumbo Robot]

I was reading the other week (I think in the Sunday Times) how Neil gets one of the lesser roles at BBC politics when he is probably their best political reporter, I think they point was being made that he is a bit of a nutter and says what he wants.

I don't even know who their chief political correspondent is any more.

I stopped watching BBC news when I suddenly had the realisation that John Craven's Newsround had more gravitas. Also, I couldn't bear that economics correspondent who pulled the funny faces and did the Magnus Pike thing with his hands.

[DodgyAgent]

I noticed the BBC coverage was switching to denouncing them as petty thugs yesterday. "To get into ISIL you have to be a thug or a drug dealer" for instance.

Fairly typical propaganda, presumably they'll be 'finding' links to kiddie porn soon.

These people should be denounced FOR what they believe.

You are a naive idiot. They are using religious beliefs as an excuse to carry out their thuggery. Just as climate change zealots use their so called "cause" as a front for their real agenda (control, suppression of freedom and money) and just as the military exploit terrorism to increase spending on weapons. lefties proclaim that they are "caring" for victims in order to exert a superior morality over the freedom of others.

[SueEllen]

I was reading the other week (I think in the Sunday Times) how Neil gets one of the lesser roles at BBC politics when he is probably their best political reporter, I think they point was being made that he is a bit of a nutter and says what he wants.

It's because while he's obviously Tory he can take anyone apart, with his simple sounding questions, including his managers.

Also the word is "eccentric".

[Waldorf]

Well said Andrew Neil

Andrew Neil Delivers Searing Rejoinder To 'Islamist Scumbags' In Opening Monologue For BBC1's 'This Week'

I saw this last night and wished we had some politicians who would speak like that.

[d000hg]

You are a naive idiot. They are using religious beliefs as an excuse to carry out their thuggery. Just as climate change zealots use their so called "cause" as a front for their real agenda

No, you're wrong. The real climate change zealots ARE zealots. They absolutely believe in their cause. The same is true of ISIL. People do not blow themselves up without a good reason.

We've talked many times about this... you're unable to conceive of believing in anything strongly enough to base your life on it, other than the money in your pocket, and so narrow minded that you are convinced everyone else is just like you.
They aren't. Many people are absolutely prepared to give up their money, their well-being or even their lives for the causes they believe in, no matter how daft those causes might be.

ISIL is full of thugs and the religious teaching they claim to follow is absolutely bogus, BUT they believe it to be valid. That's the scary thing... they really DO believe it. YOU are the naive one for being utterly blinkered to the possibility that everyone isn't basically just like you, and doing things for the same reasons you do things.

“Something Vimes had learned as a young guard drifted up from memory. If you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, if a man has you entirely at his mercy, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you're going to die. So they'll talk. They'll gloat.

They'll watch you squirm. They'll put off the moment of murder like another man will put off a good cigar.

So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word.”

[DodgyAgent]

No, you're wrong. The real climate change zealots ARE zealots. They absolutely believe in their cause. The same is true of ISIL. People do not blow themselves up without a good reason.

We've talked many times about this... you're unable to conceive of believing in anything strongly enough to base your life on it, other than the money in your pocket, and so narrow minded that you are convinced everyone else is just like you.
They aren't. Many people are absolutely prepared to give up their money, their well-being or even their lives for the causes they believe in, no matter how daft those causes might be.

ISIL is full of thugs and the religious teaching they claim to follow is absolutely bogus, BUT they believe it to be valid. That's the scary thing... they really DO believe it. YOU are the naive one for being utterly blinkered to the possibility that everyone isn't basically just like you, and doing things for the same reasons you do things.

Fair point - if you want to give them the oxygen of credibilty by respecting the fact that they may have a genuine cause then here ids Billy Connolly's take on them I prefer the idea of not holding any respect for them their beliefs or the fact that they have beliefs and satarising and laughing at them https://www.facebook.com/bewarmers/v...8795702564208/

[unixman]

ISIL is full of thugs and the religious teaching they claim to follow is absolutely bogus, BUT they believe it to be valid. That's the scary thing... they really DO believe it. YOU are the naive one for being utterly blinkered to the possibility that everyone isn't basically just like you, and doing things for the same reasons you do things.

The young guys persuaded into ISIS are highly impressionable and easily convinced. In which case, they can easily be unconvinced too. It would be very helpful if imams would denounce isis and violence, weekly and in every UK mosque. And leave the faithful in no doubt about the correct moral choices. It would help to stop new recruits signing up from the UK.

[SueEllen]

The young guys persuaded into ISIS are highly impressionable and easily convinced. In which case, they can easily be unconvinced too. It would be very helpful if imams would denounce isis and violence, weekly and in every UK mosque. And leave the faithful in no doubt about the correct moral choices. It would help to stop new recruits signing up from the UK.

The main problem is what young people can hear at colleges and universities linky

Lots of the people who sign up to ISIS and other groups are not religious at all, then they join those groups. Those groups teach that the local iman, peacher, etc aren't truly religious and they shouldn't follow their teachings but those of the group.

[BrilloPad]

Andrew Neil is a tossy name.

And what does his hair look like?

[SueEllen]

Andrew Neil is a tossy name.

Gideon Oliver Osborne?

And what does his hair look like?

You mean his toupee? He works in TV where until a few years ago female newscasters couldn't wear glasses so it's not surprising men tried to hid their bald patches.