Muslims and terrorism, do they just accept it?

[WTFH]

They actually represent the pure form of Islam.

Not sure where you get that from. Would love to hear you explain it in more detail (or provide a link to the source of your claim)

[lilelvis2000]

They actually represent the pure form of Islam.

Says who?

If them, well then you have the whole catholic-protestant et all debate except is in Islam.

All I know is Wahabi is hated by most, Then there is Ismali, Shia, Deobandi etc. Each claim they are the true representation.

[LucidDementia]

I think we should be less tolerant of religion, full stop. Not violent about it, but it should be considered shameful to be religious.

Or, more specifically, I'm talking about people who get their morality from a book - if your religious views don't mean that then that kind of religion is a lesser transgression.

Here's the main reason:

If you get your morality from ideas of revelation, probably in a book, then regardless of whether you cuddle puppies, or chop off heads, by what standard are the two interpretations different?

I.e. if you don't think the bible tells you to blow people up, whereas some do, then by what standard is your moral code any better than theirs?

If you reject the reality that morality is the product of reason, rather than faith, then by what standard do you judge that your interpretation is correct and theirs is wrong? You sanction the idea that the interpretation of a book is what matters and not reason.

If you get your morality from revelation, then you're as guilty of what happened in Paris as the men who pulled the triggers.

What an absurd post.

[WTFH]

Morality is a concept.
You can base yours on what you read in a book, from a TV show, from a teacher, from a parent, from your own experience.

To say that basing your morality on something you read makes you a terrorist supporter is absurd.

Your concept of morality will change as your experience different things. Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange" relies heavily on that - reprogram someone to find violence acceptable and they will commit acts of violence with no sense that their actions are wrong.

Many religious books teach about loving others and doing good. These bits tend to get overlooked by people who are looking for an excuse for their actions and attitude.

[minestrone]

Says who?

If them, well then you have the whole catholic-protestant et all debate except is in Islam.

All I know is Wahabi is hated by most, Then there is Ismali, Shia, Deobandi etc. Each claim they are the true representation.

Well what is Islam, the fundamental belief that the Koran is the spoken word of God through the prophet Mohammed as given by Gabriel? And that being a Muslim is the following of these 'teachings' as given by Gabriel to Mohammed?

[Andy2]

Not sure where you get that from. Would love to hear you explain it in more detail (or provide a link to the source of your claim)

Having never read the koran i have heard that there is stuff written in there like kill all the kafirs and enslave their women and children etc
not sure if it is true or not

[WTFH]

Well what is Islam, the fundamental belief that the Koran is the spoken word of God through the prophet Mohammed as given by Gabriel? And that being a Muslim is the following of these 'teachings' as given by Gabriel to Mohammed?

And back to his (and my) question... why do you say that ISIS represents the pure form of Islam? Where do you get that idea from?

[WTFH]

Having never read the koran i have heard that there is stuff written in there like kill all the kafirs and enslave their women and children etc
not sure if it is true or not

I guess you are hearing what you want to hear, believing it as true and not questioning it.

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-mentione...religion-Islam

[minestrone]

Having never read the koran i have heard that there is stuff written in there like kill all the kafirs and enslave their women and children etc
not sure if it is true or not

There is quite a bit of that, but the bible has lost of stuff like that. Depends on how much you want to go into it literally.

The Koran has the line "the hand that helps is holier than the mouth that prays" which I think is just about the greatest religious statement to be found in religious text.

[Andy2]

There is quite a bit of that, but the bible has lost of stuff like that. Depends on how much you want to go into it literally.

The Koran has the line "the hand that helps is holier than the mouth that prays" which I think is just about the greatest religious statement to be found in religious text.

Really , where does it say in the bible that kill all non-christians and make slaves?