Kicking Off in Paris Again

[LucidDementia]

We are where we are. Most of us might not like how we got here, some of us know more of the history than others, but here we are.
So, what are we going to do about it ?
just complain ?
what do you think we should do ?

What do I think we should do? Pull all military action today. Now.
Bring them home to defend home. That's their role - our military exists to defend us, instead it is used in wars of conquest while the BBC and other agencies disseminate disinformation to the populace.
Address this logically, just suppose next week a radical group of Geordies started to seize power in Northern England in an ISIS fashion. Would you suggest we used the powers at our own disposal to address it, or would you ask the US and Russia to carpet-bomb Newcastle and deploy drones all over Northern England and discuss sending in troops?

[PurpleGorilla]

Ok, please can we stop calling people 'brown people'. It is offensive.

[LucidDementia]

Lmfao, are you for real?

Please explain how I have embodied the following in ANY way whatsoever.

racism

noun
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
"theories of racism"

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

[pjclarke]

You are backing a winner here because the climate always changes. The changes are sometimes for the better and sometime for the worse.

Actually a change in climate is always going to leave some people worse off and almost certainly some others better off. And the world being what it is, the people being worse off are nearly always going to include those living on the edge, e.g. farming land that's only just viable..

There is evidence that the 2007−2010 drought contributed to the conflict in Syria. It was the worst drought in the instrumental record, causing widespread crop failure and a mass migration of farming families to urban centers. Century-long observed trends in precipitation, temperature, and sea-level pressure, supported by climate model results, strongly suggest that anthropogenic forcing has increased the probability of severe and persistent droughts in this region, and made the occurrence of a 3-year drought as severe as that of 2007−2010 2 to 3 times more likely than by natural variability alone. We conclude that human influences on the climate system are implicated in the current Syrian conflict.

Pasted from <http://www.pnas.org/content/112/11/3241>

[pjclarke]

And your point is?

If we ever abandon the core value that refugees are welcome, well then the terrorists will have achieved their aim.

[Zero Liability]

Ok, please can we stop calling people 'brown people'. It is offensive.

It's an American thing. Even in the ME, they're not all 'brown'.

[LucidDementia]

Please spare me the hollow attempts to turn it into 'racism'. I can understand their grievances, especially when the US props up authoritarian regimes that cause much of the trouble in the region, just saying it is absolutely not the fault of most Westerners, and we shouldn't let our governments try con us into thinking it is. The actions of the terrorists remain inexcusable.

I am not attempting to call it racism. If I thought you were racist I'd just ******* say so.

Let our governments con us into thinking it's our fault? Holy tulip, that's insanity.
Our governments work for us (although we seem to have forgotten this), and this entire mess was caused directly by them.
Yes, the actions of individuals walking into concert venues and executing innocent civilians is utterly reprehensible, sickening. The point is that attacking countries and killing thousands or millions is also reprehensible and the direct cause of the terrorist escalations and yet we want to blame the terrorists and excuse the warmongers.

[PurpleGorilla]

I am not attempting to call it racism. If I thought you were racist I'd just ******* say so.

Let our governments con us into thinking it's our fault? Holy tulip, that's insanity.
Our governments work for us (although we seem to have forgotten this), and this entire mess was caused directly by them.
Yes, the actions of individuals walking into concert venues and executing innocent civilians is utterly reprehensible, sickening. The point is that attacking countries and killing thousands or millions is also reprehensible and the direct cause of the terrorist escalations and yet we want to blame the terrorists and excuse the warmongers.

Last time I checked we voted not to attack Syria by the elected H of P.

[meridian]

Ok, please can we stop calling people 'brown people'. It is offensive.

Offensive to who? I'm brown (although part Polynesian, not Mediterranean or ME), it's better than a lot of other words out there....

[Zero Liability]

Offensive to who? I'm brown (although part Polynesian, not Mediterranean or ME), it's better than a lot of other words out there....

Offensive to nitpickers.