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Cant pay wont pay on TV - people getting evicted for not paying rent

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    #61
    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    If you mean tenants don't have a right to stay in properties indefinitely despite fixed term tenancies expiring then tough buy a house.
    Tenants can't afford to do that thanks to you lot making free money out of renting and then moaning about how you're not getting rich quick enough. But even if they can they're still only moving from the landlord's house to the bank's house. You don't have the right to stay no matter what, at least not for 25 years or so.

    I've actually no idea if I have to give notice to my landlord or if she can or has to give notice to me. The agreement expired a long time ago and I just stayed.
    Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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      #62
      Originally posted by AtW View Post
      Not having a job is not the same as not having a home to stay in and watch tulipe daily shows on Sky like PC will be doing for the foreseeable future.

      Notice to tenant should be very long, 6 months minimum.

      The notice to landlord should be shorter - say 2 months.

      In some countries in Europe you can't even get rid of tenant if they pay on time, providing housing to people should not be short term game, because it's not a game.
      Why does the Tenant need 6 months notice if they signed a 12 month contract?

      https://www.gov.uk/tenancy-agreement...ding-a-tenancy

      Of course you have to give 2 months notice then 2 months to get eviction, during which time they probably won't pay rent.


      Why should notice to the landlord be shorter? Aren't they entitled to the same courtesy? It amuses me everyone believe Landlords should be a branch of social services.
      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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        #63
        My landlord is a mutual society that thought they were a bank

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          #64
          [QUOTE=meridian;2163287]
          Originally posted by vetran View Post
          If you mean tenants don't have a right to stay in properties indefinitely despite fixed term tenancies expiring then tough buy a house. Renting is completely different to owning, its not "YOUR HOME" its a "RENTAL PROPERTY".[\QUOTE]

          Not quite. For renters, it's not "YOUR HOUSE", but for many if not most of us it is our home. There's a subtle difference.

          Many landlords these days want it both ways, they want to complain about tenants not treating the property as their home but then they want to keep it as an arms-length business transaction. It's a very difficult line to walk when one side can be emotionally involved.
          Its funny that as an owner you have more protection renting out a car than you do renting a property.

          I was very careful with the choice of words.

          Its a rental property full stop, you may consider it "Your" home but it isn't any more than a hotel room is your home. Now I'm sympathetic with those that pay market rents and have sensible tenancies but those on subsidised rents and council tenancies get on my nerves.
          Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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            #65
            Originally posted by vetran View Post
            Why does the Tenant need 6 months notice if they signed a 12 month contract?
            Signed contract is a signed contract, more important what happens after it turns into Periodic Tenancy - that's where notice periods are unacceptably short right now, could be as little as 1 month, or even a week if they pay weekly!

            Originally posted by vetran View Post
            Why should notice to the landlord be shorter? Aren't they entitled to the same courtesy? It amuses me everyone believe Landlords should be a branch of social services.
            Landlord got a house to live in. One can argue for "flexible jobs market" with short notices and fook all employee rights to encourage investment, but there is no such need in the housing market because it only encourages higher demand for same limited house numbers - staying in a warm house is more important than having a job.

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              #66
              Originally posted by AtW View Post
              My landlord is a mutual society that thought they were a bank
              are they better than a BTL landlord?
              Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                #67
                Originally posted by vetran View Post
                are they better than a BTL landlord?
                Actually yes - no rent increases in 5 years

                They are trying to sell the flats at crazy price though to return their mortgage money

                I reckon they are just incompetent.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by AtW View Post
                  Signed contract is a signed contract, more important what happens after it turns into Periodic Tenancy - that's where notice periods are unacceptably short right now, could be as little as 1 month, or even a week if they pay weekly!
                  .
                  Reasonable point, my understanding is it becomes a periodic tenancy when the landlord lets it lapse, have you had a request to remain on fixed tenancy refused?

                  Originally posted by AtW View Post
                  Landlord got a house to live in. One can argue for "flexible jobs market" with short notices and fook all employee rights to encourage investment, but there is no such need in the housing market because it only encourages higher demand for same limited house numbers - staying in a warm house is more important than having a job.
                  Landlord may have a house to live in or they may have been working abroad and returning or need the property for another purpose. It is their house!
                  Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by vetran View Post
                    Reasonable point, my understanding is it becomes a periodic tenancy when the landlord lets it lapse, have you had a request to remain on fixed tenancy refused?
                    Yes, it happened and I was shortly kicked out from a nice place.

                    Also asking for new contract is effectively asking for a rent review.

                    Originally posted by vetran View Post
                    Landlord may have a house to live in or they may have been working abroad and returning or need the property for another purpose. It is their house!
                    It's a house rented out to other people. Nobody should be getting into such business lightly and should fully appreciate that it's a long term thing and that tenants can't be kicked out just because landlord returned from working abroad.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by AtW View Post
                      Yes, it happened and I was shortly kicked out from a nice place.

                      Also asking for new contract is effectively asking for a rent review.



                      It's a house rented out to other people. Nobody should be getting into such business lightly and should fully appreciate that it's a long term thing and that tenants can't be kicked out just because landlord returned from working abroad.
                      Was the new rent they wanted the market rent? Did they have any problem renting it out? If so why should they subsidise you?



                      So if I go abroad to work I shouldn't rent the house out or have a reasonable expectation to get it back so my family can live in it? This so as not to upset a tenant.
                      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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