Antarctic Ice Sheet growing

[pjclarke]

We have good proxies going back 1500-2000 years. Ice cores going back 800,000 years. This rate of warming seems unprecedented...

Civilisation developed and prospered in the Holocene, a time of relatively stable climate. On that timescale, the current and projected rate of modern warming is practically vertical.

[EternalOptimist]

Hang on
if 2 degrees of warming was going to give us tem m of sea level rise, thousands of extinctions and a billion climate refugees,


we are half way there


where is my 5m of sea level??
I demand my money back

[pjclarke]

Hang on
if 2 degrees of warming was going to give us tem m of sea level rise, thousands of extinctions and a billion climate refugees,
we are half way there
where is my 5m of sea level??
I demand my money back

Started on the Hobgoblin a little early?

[DimPrawn]

We have good proxies going back 1500-2000 years. Ice cores going back 800,000 years. This rate of warming seems unprecedented...

Civilisation developed and prospered in the Holocene, a time of relatively stable climate. On that timescale, the current and projected rate of modern warming is practically vertical.

Is that a new Hockey Stick?

In the year 2100 I will come back from the grave and beat you "climate scientists" to death with it.

[EternalOptimist]

Started on the Hobgoblin a little early?

ok, that's the ad hominem taken care of, can we have the bluster now ?

[DodgyAgent]

We have good proxies going back 1500-2000 years. Ice cores going back 800,000 years. This rate of warming seems unprecedented...

Civilisation developed and prospered in the Holocene, a time of relatively stable climate. On that timescale, the current and projected rate of modern warming is practically vertical.

You people can get as alarmist as you like.. you are not going to get any control over the rest of us.

[EternalOptimist]

You people can get as alarmist as you like.. you are not going to get any control over the rest of us.

They are not going to get control of out borders either

Natalie Bennett got 1% on the following question
'Which of the following political party leaders do you think has the best policies relating to the control of Britain's borders?'

(for anyone mathematically challenged pj, that's one out of a hundred)

[pjclarke]

Natalie Bennett got 1% on the following question
'Which of the following political party leaders do you think has the best policies relating to the control of Britain's borders?'

(for anyone mathematically challenged pj, that's one out of a hundred)

So, there's this accountant, Andrew Montford, who in recent years has discovered that pandering to the do-nothing, inactivist, psuedosceptical, wishful thinking community can also be profitable, for example he wrote a work of fiction on the hockey stick graph, and has been commissioned by Nigel Lawson's secretive GWPF to write biased reports into various aspect of climate policy.

He also runs a blog, Bishop Hill, which can be relied on to put an anti-Green spin on any story, for example in this post he accused environmentalist Oliver Tickell of stating that Western Oil interests colluded in the Paris atrocity. In support he posted this extract from Tickell

Let's just say that it could have been a factor, one of several, in the choice of target and of their timing. And of course ISIS was not necessarily acting entirely on its own. While not alleging direct collusion between ISIS and other oil producing nations and companies, it's not hard to see a coincidence of interests.

You may conclude that Tickell actually said the exact opposite of what was attributed to him and that when one eternally optimistic poster said … 'greenies are wondering of its a plot to make more profits for big oil', he was stretching speculation beyond breaking point.

So, when no link is provided, as is usually the case, safest to conclude that the assertion is based on high quality fairy dust.

Besides, the results of a single opinion poll on one party leader's immigration policy are irrelevant to the topic of this thread. If you want to see a more relevant and cross-party political majority, look no further than the Climate Change Act 2008 which committed the country to a 80% cut in emissions by 2050 and was voted against by only 5 MPs. For the arithmetically challenged, that's less than 1%

[EternalOptimist]

The latest green party statement - '..defeat ISIS using the weapon that these terrorists fear most of all, peace talks'


I sh!t you not

[WTFH]

The latest green party statement - '..defeat ISIS using the weapon that these terrorists fear most of all, peace talks'


I sh!t you not

It worked in Northern Ireland.


Terrorists rely on division and convincing people that everything is binary, that there can be no common ground.
Reasonable people are able to find common ground.


Unreasonable ones can only see black or white. 1 or 0.