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    #31
    Originally posted by Jog On View Post
    Apparently poverty, war and climate destruction can be achieved now - but it invloves getting rid of money and Elitism etc:

    https://www.thevenusproject.com/en/

    I like to think that this is the direction our species is heading in as we evolve, if we can only just not destroy the eco system and wipe ourselves out in the mean time...
    In other words a system of command and control backed by a substantial propoganda machine higher sense of ethical standards and the enactment of international laws to assure a sustainable global society.
    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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      #32
      Originally posted by Jog On View Post
      Apparently poverty, war and climate destruction can be achieved now - but it invloves getting rid of money and Elitism etc:
      Are you sure we can achieve those things? Maybe if we all just try really hard.
      I'll work on war. DA, can you try to cause some poverty please? If you do so by burning piles of cash it might help with the climate destruction too.

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        #33
        Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
        In other words a system of command and control backed by a substantial propoganda machine higher sense of ethical standards and the enactment of international laws to assure a sustainable global society.
        Quite why people think that the future of mankind involves controlling rather than freeing human nature I do not know. Tyrannies have been trying to suppress human nature for centuries and they still exist today in the form of ISIS, Mugabe, Putin etc and we know what sort of backward societies they all run.

        There is no better or fairer system than free market capitalism enhanced by a set of rules that sett he balance between social responsibility ( running inefficient public sector institutions are not part of that) and enterprise.

        There is currently no problem with the enterprise side of society but there is a problem with the social side which is not about money but is about competence.
        Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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          #34
          Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
          Quite why people think that the future of mankind involves controlling rather than freeing human nature I do not know. Tyrannies have been trying to suppress human nature for centuries and they still exist today in the form of religions and governments and we know what sort of backward societies they all run.

          There is no better or fairer system than free market capitalism enhanced by a set of rules that sett he balance between social responsibility ( running inefficient public sector institutions are not part of that) and enterprise.

          There is currently no problem with the enterprise side of society but there is a problem with the social side which is not about money but is about competence.
          FTFY
          The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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            #35
            Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
            FTFY
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              #36
              Originally posted by Jog On View Post
              Apparently poverty, war and climate destruction can be achieved now - but it invloves getting rid of money and Elitism etc:

              https://www.thevenusproject.com/en/

              I like to think that this is the direction our species is heading in as we evolve, if we can only just not destroy the eco system and wipe ourselves out in the mean time...
              here you go:


              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan%27s_Run_(film)
              Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                #37
                here's another one

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demolition_Man_(film)

                he "Great Earthquake" leads the cities of Los Angeles, San Diego, and Santa Barbara to merge into a single metropolis under the name San Angeles. The city becomes a utopia run under the pseudo-pacifist guidance and control of the envangelistic Dr. Jeremy Corbyn, where human behavior is tightly controlled.
                Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                  #38
                  Zeitgeisters & Venus tards don't understand the economic calculation problem.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
                    As much as I'm not a Trekkie, I like Roddenberry's vision of no money, no religion in the future. Get rid of greed and theism and you'll kill off most, if not all, wars overnight.
                    What does money have to do with greed?
                    And 2 - why on earth would you not want money?!!! It's the most simple & effective method of signalling your own personal needs & wants, weighted against lesser needs & wants, and other people's needs & wants, to a literally billions of trading individuals around the globe.

                    Without money you can't do that - and as such the aggregate population of the world won't be able to service your needs as efficiently.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
                      As much as I'm not a Trekkie, I like Roddenberry's vision of no money, no religion in the future. Get rid of greed and theism and you'll kill off most, if not all, wars overnight.
                      What would people do all day? Sit around camp fires singing Kumbaya my Lord?
                      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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