Syrian toddler Aylan's father drove capsized boat, other passengers say

[SueEllen]

Your point is?

Read my first sentence or is that too hard for you to comprehend?

They are leaving because they see they have no future as they think they will be in a camp for decades.

(Sorry watching a BBC3 thing on girls and coding)

[darmstadt]

education should be free - always

Except for Tory voters as they don't believe in that, nor do they believe in benefits (so no child benefits for them) or in fact anything from the state. They should also have to pay for open source software as it has a leftie liberal slant to it which is against their principles but at least paying for it would make them feel good

[stek]

Your point is?

But for an accident of birth you could be one of these people? What would you do? Open a recruitment agency?

[darmstadt]

Your point is?

A very ******* sharp one, possibly...

[meridian]

Syrian toddler Aylan's father drove capsized boat, other passengers say

Doctoral work should be funded from a source other than the one doing the research. At the end of the day we all benefit.

I agree post-uni courses are a different kettle of fish. But uni education in general should be free at the undergraduate level.

Just uni? Sounds elitist. What about trades? Or community colleges? Diplomas? What if I don't want to go to uni and just want to do a few specialised courses in the development language of my choice? Or an NCP in childcare?

In other words, why are you drawing a line at uni? And why is that line better than "free up to secondary school"?

[scooterscot]

Are you saying all education at all levels from infant through to through to a PHD should be free? Should evening classes be free for those who have left formal education?

Should education be free for people born within a country, resident within a country or have just arrived a country?

Should the German tax-payers be on the hook for the educational costs of the million+ refugees who are expected to arrive this year?

There's no such thing as "Free". Someone always has to pay.

It's a resource allocation problem. If you are allocating resources to one group, you are not allocating them to another and politicians have to be very mindful of that.

Doctoral work should funded from a source other than the researcher.

Event classes, depends what the subject is. Read and writing? English lessons? Well of course free of charge.

Education freely available to the residents.

While I'm at it... there's too many people in higher education. A good percentage of them should have being off to study a trade.

[scooterscot]

Why? If it is free then someone else has to pay for it.

Because we all benefit.

A nation of burger flippers/recruitments agents is unlikely to be making of a long-term successful economy.

[DaveB]

The family had been living in a Turkish refugee camp for three years so they were not under threat of death. Nothing is ever as seen. It does not make the death of the child any less tragic. It does however raise questions about how deal with the refugee problem.



Syrian toddler Aylan's father drove capsized boat, other passengers say | Reuters

Typical extrapolation of an unrealistic outcome from a single event. It was (possibly) true for one refugee family therefore it must be true for all refugee families.

It's a classic tactic of political parties and rulers who want to maintain their grip, take a single instance and use it to demonise anyone else vaguely connected to it. It's been used against minorities of all colours and faiths for centuries.

[scooterscot]

Just uni? Sounds elitist. What about trades? Or community colleges? Diplomas? What if I don't want to go to uni and just want to do a few specialised courses in the development language of my choice? Or an NCP in childcare?

In other words, why are you drawing a line at uni? And why is that line better than "free up to secondary school"?

I'm thinking obtuse. Education is a birth right, not something to be profited from. We're a sad species indeed if we deliberately withhold others from reaching their potential.

The choice should be up to the individual. I'm not angling for full on Montessori. However I'm fairly certain higher education would be fee free were admission levels half of what they are now.

[vetran]

Typical extrapolation of an unrealistic outcome from a single event. It was (possibly) true for one refugee family therefore it must be true for all refugee families.

It's a classic tactic of political parties and rulers who want to maintain their grip, take a single instance and use it to demonise anyone else vaguely connected to it. It's been used against minorities of all colours and faiths for centuries.

the masses had no problem extrapolating a wave of now obviously false sympathy from one photo.

none degree students have paid for the last 30+ years. The bleating of degree level students about fees is quite amusing.