Official Labour leadership thread

[AtW]

Sneer away - it won't make any difference. In fact the more sneering from Tories, Blairites and Murdoch press just drives more people to Corbyn - haven't you worked that out yet?

I hope Bliar would come out from hiding to do more scare mongering again, asking to vote for Tories

btw, in next elections Corbyn will make deal with SNP - so today he single handedly got what is necessary for Labour to win the elections. By 2020 cuts in England will bite so hard that he'll have landslide even in Eton district.

[Zero Liability]

He'll say he will put it on referendum and will abide by its result.

By 2020 his socialist policies will appeal to a lot many people, including ex-Con voters like myself - tory scum (specifically Osborne) in Govt deserves to get it after they lied in last election.

In fact last time Miliband lost because he was a numpty Tory-light option, anybody else would have won it, never mind in 2020 by which cuts will take real bite, Corbyn will PM barring any sudden health issues.

Miliband was a lefty. Perhaps it's due to how leftwards the Tories themselves have swung over the years, but he isn't what I'd consider Tory-lite. Just a champagne socialist. Corbyn isn't exactly "working class" himself. Not that I consider it to be hugely determinative of much at all.

Also, these policies are rarely confined to the "rich", who will more often than not exit if the going gets too bad. Not so for middle class individuals whose assets mostly consist of their home. Maybe it's time to resurrect the Ed stone. Fitting avatar, BTW!

Frankly, any Tory voter should welcome Korbyn - he would force (I hope) fookers in Govt to cut taxes proper well before election in 2020, not some token few pennies given with one hand and many pounds taken by another, no - proper tax cuts, to show the REAL DIFFERENCE between parties, and if they don't do it then they can fook off back to Eton.

You'd hope so. TBH though that is more something I'd expect of UKIP than Labour, and that may happen if CMD's renegotiation bid goes down the drain and fails to deliver much of value.

[AtW]

Miliband was a lefty. Perhaps it's due to how leftwards the Tories themselves have swung over the years, but he isn't what I'd consider Tory-lite. Just a champagne socialist. Corbyn isn't exactly "working class" himself. Not that I consider it to be hugely determinative of much at all.

No, Miliband from Bliarite-Brownite brew, very bad batch too. He had no convictions of his own and was lead by focus groups saying different things.

Fact is people are sick of those scumbags who are not much different from each other - Corbyn should change it, if won't shy away from new way of selecting MPs - by grassroots votes, rather than imposed by the top office.

How much worse Corbyn can be to me personally? 50% tax is same as 45%, especially when Cons fook you over - cutting it from 50% first and then increasing taxation on dividends to make you pay more than it would have been under 50% tax regime. Fook 'em - after such betrayal it's a matter of principle to get them kicked out at the earliest opportunity, which sadly would only come in 2020.

[DimPrawn]

**** me, cretinism is alive and well on CUK.

You think Komrade Korbyn represents you and is going to make your life better?



Wake up, he's another sleeper commie with 1970's hot tub time machine in his back garden.

I despair at the utter idiocy of those excited by Communist Britain in the 21st Century.

[Zero Liability]

No, Miliband from Bliarite-Brownite brew, very bad batch too. He had no convictions of his own and was lead by focus groups saying different things.

Fact is people are sick of those scumbags who are not much different from each other - Corbyn should change it, if won't shy away from new way of selecting MPs - by grassroots votes, rather than imposed by the top office.

Perhaps, though he did say he saw a place for Ed under his leadership. Never said in what capacity, though. He'd serve as a decent footrest, I should imagine.

I still consider Brown - and Miliband - to both be lefties. Whether it is due to focus groups, technocratic pretences, or whatever, their espoused political views fall in that category. I also don't think Miliband is a political opportunist on the level of Hilary Clinton, who changed her political scales as it suited her bid for power; he's been at this for quite a while.

What do you think will happen to the SNP's fortunes? I don't really see this change making a big difference in this respect as their USP is still their independence bid.

[AtW]

You think Komrade Korbyn represents you and is going to make your life better?

After 2020 elections he'll put remaining Tory MPs into the First Hunger Games for the Southern Districts

[AtW]

What do you think will happen to the SNP's fortunes? I don't really see this change making a big difference in this respect as their USP is still their independence bid.

SNP will hold Scotland in 5 years for sure, maybe even improve on their result - they'll love Corbyn and make public deal, so people will know that voting for Corbyn will not result in a hung parliament and he'll have plenty of votes to form strong Govt.

Essentially all he needs to do is avoid personal scandals (like being found dead in a hotel tied up with an orange gag in a mouth) and take a few seats in the North where cuts will bite real hard.

The fact that he is old is actually good - fooks like Osborne became MPs early on, before that "worked" in some supporting role in Conservative central office (or something like that), and he is a fooking Chancellor!!! Should not be possible, he is not fit to run a company, nevermind country.

[Zero Liability]

After 2020 elections he'll put remaining Tory MPs into the First Hunger Games for the Southern Districts

The Tories missed that ticket, they could've done that this year with all the MPs they decapitated. Would've boosted the northern economy, too. Maybe that was the issue with it.

SNP will hold Scotland in 5 years for sure, maybe even improve on their result - they'll love Corbyn and make public deal, so people will know that voting for Corbyn will not result in a hung parliament and he'll have plenty of votes to form strong Govt.

Essentially all he needs to do is avoid personal scandals (like being found dead in a hotel tied up with an orange gag in a mouth) and take a few seats in the North where cuts will bite real hard.

Yes, good point. I think he will be more sanguine about the prospects of working with the SNP.

[AtW]

Yes, good point. I think he will be more sanguine about the prospects of working with the SNP.

1) He checks ALL the boxes with SNP
2) He will work with them even before elections to provide stronger opposition to Tories, so easy public pact later for the good of the country (and why not?)

This will save him money so he could focus on England/Wales.

Easy, guaranteed win in 2020 - when cuts will be biting hard, budget still won't be in proficit so tories will promise tax cuts only later.

[No2politics]

**** me, cretinism is alive and well on CUK.

You think Komrade Korbyn represents you and is going to make your life better?

what a selfish view of the world