If Corbyn gets in

[TestMangler]

Displacement activity? Better than thinking about George Osborne's plans for the self employed....

Has to be something like that. There was a thread before where tory voting contractors were advising others to join the Labour party and vote for Corbyn as it would make labour totally unelectable and we'd have Tory governments forever (Hooray !). This from a bunch of contractors who have just been right royally arse raped by a Tory government with a small majority

[AtW]

we'd have Tory governments forever (Hooray !)

I doubt that very much.

[Zero Liability]

Has to be something like that. There was a thread before where tory voting contractors were advising others to join the Labour party and vote for Corbyn as it would make labour totally unelectable and we'd have Tory governments forever (Hooray !). This from a bunch of contractors who have just been right royally arse raped by a Tory government with a small majority

This is one reason why I wouldn't be overly thrilled about Labour and the LDs going the way of the dodo. Unless it spurred the rise of some competing party like UKIP, that is. It would be nice if there were a genuinely classical liberal alternative to the Tories, but as it is there is only a choice of whose pockets your tax money will go to fill, plus some window-dressing depending on either party's choice of rhetoric.

[TestMangler]

This is one reason why I wouldn't be overly thrilled about Labour and the LDs going the way of the dodo. Unless it spurred the rise of some competing party like UKIP, that is. It would be nice if there were a genuinely classical liberal alternative to the Tories, but as it is there is only a choice of whose pockets your tax money will go to fill, plus some window-dressing depending on either party's choice of rhetoric.

Exactly this. Not that I would ever vote for any of the three of them, but, a party of brainless hooray henry types with no business brains and no opposition would be the last thing anyone needs. At least in Thatcher's day there were people involved who actually had some business experience and brains. Look at the way this lot have done things on the back of a tiny majority. Imagine the havoc they could bring forth with a massive one.

[EternalOptimist]

Latest news of the great labour Purge.
Leader of the PCS union, and a mate of Corbyn, Mark Serwotka, has been barred from voting

[Zero Liability]

Exactly this. Not that I would ever vote for any of the three of them, but, a party of brainless hooray henry types with no business brains and no opposition would be the last thing anyone needs. At least in Thatcher's day there were people involved who actually had some business experience and brains. Look at the way this lot have done things on the back of a tiny majority. Imagine the havoc they could bring forth with a massive one.

TBH the two main parties face precious little competition under the FPTP system. One of the two will be in at any given time, so the main impetus is to just keep "middle England" voting for them. Something like the SNP could happen in England, but at the moment we're just entering a prolonged phase of Tory rule, providing they don't balls it up massively (the EU referendum could be a threat). Thus the ideological and intellectual stagnation.

[EternalOptimist]

TBH the two main parties face precious little competition under the FPTP system. One of the two will be in at any given time, so the main impetus is to just keep "middle England" voting for them. Something like the SNP could happen in England, but at the moment we're just entering a prolonged phase of Tory rule, providing they don't balls it up massively (the EU referendum could be a threat). Thus the ideological and intellectual stagnation.

or a period of welcome stability

[Zero Liability]

One would have hoped, but given what came this budget, I wouldn't be inclined to agree.

[tomtomagain]

Corbyn has to absolutely get in. We need a sustained period of grass roots socialism which will create extensive social mobility and bring the poor and deprived to the same standards as middle class. New Labour did try and almost got it but not quite. The benefits available should be jacked up considerably so that they are on par with average salary. That is important. Taxation is at low levels now due to Tories, we need that to go up massively. Green taxes need to go up too like APD and fuel duty, Corbyn has to double them. Nationalise railways, energy and water companies, they have been taking the piss. Boost public sector and double it. So many things to be done to correct the wrong.

Look, you may or may not be right ( and to be honest I'm not entirely sure if you are being serious ).

But if Corbyn gets in what you will almost certainly get is 10+ years of unchallenged Tory rule.

Because, if I remember correctly, Ed Milliband did not win the general election because he was too right wing.

Corbyn is not going to win the bulk of England. And once the boundary changes kick in he's not going to maintain the number of MPs he already has.

And every Labour MP who turns up on the radio, TV or in print is going to be constantly asked: "Do you support your leaders position on Hamas?". "Do you support your leader on renationalising industry?" ..... and every single ill-conceived idea he's uttered in his 32 years of being ignored in Parliment.

He will get hammered and Labour will be pigeon-holed as the party of the benefit scrounger and immigrant.

[EternalOptimist]

One would have hoped, but given what came this budget, I wouldn't be inclined to agree.

if you find yourself in dire straights, you tighten your belt and take it on the chin.

That is different from some idealistic d!ckwad saying 'when I get in, I will solve the worlds problems by forcing you to tighten your belt. oh and by the way, just take it on the chin'