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Jeremy Corbyn
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I agree with the diagnosis, just not him, or much less the Labour party, as the proposed solution... -
Unfortunately there's no-one else. Which is why voting has always been a wasted exercise for me in recent years.Originally posted by Zero Liability View PostI agree with the diagnosis, just not him, or much less the Labour party, as the proposed solution...'Orwell's 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual'. -
Nick Pickles, director of Big Brother Watch.Comment
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+1Originally posted by SantaClaus View PostUnfortunately there's no-one else. Which is why voting has always been a wasted exercise for me in recent years.
What else is there?
With Corbyn at least there is the tiniest morsel of integrity there somewhere.....
You have to respect him for that...Comment
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True, but I don't see how he is got anything better to offer than the Tories. To truly reform a system would require a move away from debt financed spending and stimulation of private debt creation, and to refocus the economy on producing value for value and unshackling business. His QE for the people idea may not be quite as insidious as the current monetary setup, but it is still going to cause imbalances in the economy that will result in more direct forms of price inflation and wobbly investments than QE has thus far, contributing to the cost of living crisis. If the man had a clue about economics, I'd consider him. I like Farage better, even though I don't necessarily think he has a shot in hell from coming close to PM. Most people whom I think could change the system for the better, simply cannot be elected.Originally posted by SantaClaus View PostUnfortunately there's no-one else. Which is why voting has always been a wasted exercise for me in recent years.
Most of us here dislike the Tories for their tax grabs and broken promises. Under Blair, Labour was somewhat more relaxed about wealth creation; under a socialist leader, they will not be. Although the party will temper whatever policies he can enact in actuality, I think they will make the Tories' attack on contractors seem like a gentle breeze. So I have to weigh up his reasonable comments on Blair's **** ups (and their after-effects) against his planned objectives for the economy, and I have to say if someone like him came to power and was able to enact these policies, I would look abroad for greener pastures. It is very easy for the young to be excited by someone who speaks out against the injustices perpetrated against them, but this has to be weighed up against the track record of what these policies actually deliver, and I think a rebalanced economy focused on wealth production, as opposed to asset price inflation, is far more in their interests than what he promises. A lot of systems that endure to this day were promised on the back of unbridled idealism, but have ended up being the products of political cynicism, so just because he promises a few reforms here and there, does not mean that the guy later down the line (remember, he is quite old) will be quite so well intentioned, even assuming their economics were sound. Some of the media histrionics
Maybe if he made some moves to transition to a PR system, and campaigned against EU membership, I'd take a longer term view and support him then. I'm pragmatic in that way.Last edited by Zero Liability; 21 August 2015, 23:09.Comment
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I think notOriginally posted by NibblyPig View PostHe needs to lose the beard, he looks like a member of CAMRA or spokesman for the welsh rambling society.
Silly why that would matter, but it does.
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Well good luck to him, I hope he wins. It will give the Establishment a fright if he does.
It all feels a bit revolutionary. [emoji48]"I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
- Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...Comment
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Man of principles the public can trust.Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostAnd Corbyn is as ruthless as any fanatic devoted to his cause Jeremy Corbyn divorced wife when she refused to send son to comprehensive school | Daily Mail Online
Much better than preaching how great state schools are but sending kids to private edukation.Comment
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That'd be one good thing to come of it, at least Labour would be clearly distinguishable from the Tories, as opposed to Miliband's abortive attempt to sneak in leftist policies in some bizarre mishmash "middle ground" platform that ultimately failed. I wouldn't say it'd make them more "working class", as I don't equate leftist policies with this group's interests, but it'd make them different.Originally posted by cojak View PostWell good luck to him, I hope he wins. It will give the Establishment a fright if he does.
It all feels a bit revolutionary. [emoji48]
I wonder if they'll fly in the other Miliband to come to the rescue of the Tory-lite segments of the party should that transpire.Comment
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Only the little people go to State schools.Originally posted by Jog On View PostIf he had sent his kids to private they'd attack him on that. What's wrong with state education?
Seriously if one of your parents is a well connected MP as long as you aren't thick it doesn't matter what school you go to."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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True - I just think that if he had sent his kids to public school the press would be using that against him and they might have a point!Originally posted by SueEllen View PostOnly the little people go to State schools.
Seriously if one of your parents is a well connected MP as long as you aren't thick it doesn't matter what school you go to.
Just voted online
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