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    #11
    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    Iraq war was lunacy...
    With the benefit of hindsight , the Iraq invasion might have been a mistake. You might balance the horrors of ISIS against the horrors of Saddam and find (for all I know), that Saddam killed far more and that it was right to remove him. On the other hand, it might be that the consequences of the war are indeed worse than Saddam, and the invasion was therefore a deadly mistake. If Saddam had been left to brew, how would things look now.

    I find it hard to decide. The Chilcot report might help if it hasn't already been buried on Pluto. I do get a bit annoyed at the media (who supported the Iraq invasion), Parliament (who supported the invasion), individual MPs (who supported the invasion), British public (who, overall, supported the invasion), celebrities on Question Time (who supported the invasion), Guardianistas (who supported the invasion), suddenly realizing that they don't like the unforeseen consequences of a war (which they wanted) 15 years later, and trying to distance themselves from it by blaming Blair.

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      #12
      Originally posted by unixman View Post
      With the benefit of hindsight , the Iraq invasion might have been a mistake. You might balance the horrors of ISIS against the horrors of Saddam and find (for all I know), that Saddam killed far more and that it was right to remove him. On the other hand, it might be that the consequences of the war are indeed worse than Saddam, and the invasion was therefore a deadly mistake. If Saddam had been left to brew, how would things look now.

      I find it hard to decide. The Chilcot report might help if it hasn't already been buried on Pluto. I do get a bit annoyed at the media (who supported the Iraq invasion), Parliament (who supported the invasion), individual MPs (who supported the invasion), British public (who, overall, supported the invasion), celebrities on Question Time (who supported the invasion), Guardianistas (who supported the invasion), suddenly realizing that they don't like the unforeseen consequences of a war (which they wanted) 15 years later, and trying to distance themselves from it by blaming Blair.
      Well said
      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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        #13
        Originally posted by original PM View Post
        Would it be good for Britain?

        Would it be bad for Britain?

        You know what Corbyn does not care it is about him getting his name in lights..

        look look look me me me

        and that for me is one of the many reason tw@s like this should get nowehere near public office

        the UK does not exist to give him something to do - make things better or fook off
        Almost every politician cares more about themselves than the country.

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          #14
          Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
          Almost every politician cares more about themselves than the country.

          Maggie cared about the country more than herself
          Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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            #15
            Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
            Maggie cared about the country more than herself
            Indeed - one of the reason some small minority groups hate her - she put the good of the many over the good of the few.

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              #16
              Originally posted by unixman View Post
              With the benefit of hindsight , the Iraq invasion might have been a mistake. You might balance the horrors of ISIS against the horrors of Saddam and find (for all I know), that Saddam killed far more and that it was right to remove him. On the other hand, it might be that the consequences of the war are indeed worse than Saddam, and the invasion was therefore a deadly mistake. If Saddam had been left to brew, how would things look now.

              I find it hard to decide. The Chilcot report might help if it hasn't already been buried on Pluto. I do get a bit annoyed at the media (who supported the Iraq invasion), Parliament (who supported the invasion), individual MPs (who supported the invasion), British public (who, overall, supported the invasion), celebrities on Question Time (who supported the invasion), Guardianistas (who supported the invasion), suddenly realizing that they don't like the unforeseen consequences of a war (which they wanted) 15 years later, and trying to distance themselves from it by blaming Blair.
              All correct, but Blair dug himself a hole by lying to parliament and using an American students thesis and presenting it as evidence as the justification for war, and thus parliament approved a war based on a lie

              He handed justification for those who want to discredit him
              Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.

              No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.

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                #17
                Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post
                All correct, but Blair dug himself a hole by lying to parliament and using an American students thesis and presenting it as evidence as the justification for war, and thus parliament approved a war based on a lie
                Perhaps he did. Chilcot will supposedly tell us, if it is published before the next ice age. Certainly Blair seemed to be in love with George W Bush. All British Prime Ministers appear to become star-struck with whatever American president is sitting at the time. Sometimes it works well, as with with Thatcher/Reagan. But with Blair/Bush, maybe better if they had never met.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
                  Fast public trial, followed by even faster execution.

                  Korbyn

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by AtW View Post
                    Fast public trial, followed by even faster execution.

                    Korbyn
                    Firing squad, hanging or electric chair?

                    Something I will enjoy thinking about....

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                      Firing squad, hanging or electric chair?

                      Something I will enjoy thinking about....
                      Put it out as referendum?

                      It's democracy after all.

                      Combine it with EU vote and record turnout will be guaranteed.

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