Climate Catastrophe

[EternalOptimist]

Listen my friend.
we have been told that this has been the 'hottest july in the UK EVAH'

but we have been putting the heating on, putting the winter duvets on and watching the gritters on the streets of Scotland.

we don't believe your propaganda any more

[pjclarke]

Listen my friend.
we have been told that this has been the 'hottest july in the UK EVAH'

but we have been putting the heating on, putting the winter duvets on and watching the gritters on the streets of Scotland.

we don't believe your propaganda any more

Every month the NASA Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS) receive and collate temperature measurements from the approximately 4,000 land based surface weather stations that make up the GHCN network. They combine these with the ERSSST4 sea surface temperature product to produce an estimate of the global mean surface temperature. All data and code is open source. Our own Hadley Centre and two or three other agencies around the world do the same thing. It’s a magnificent scientific enterprise, and they all come to the same conclusion: the globe is warming more rapidly than it has done at any other time that we are aware of.

Without wishing to be gratuitously offensive, you can shove your Glasgow gritters up yer erse.

[EternalOptimist]

I don't understand the mindset of someone who would ignore an empirical fact , like gritters or duvets, in favour of a statistical construct based upon thermometers sited next to runways full of massive jet engines.

[WTFH]

Climate Catastrophe

EO, are you saying that for the whole month of July you had the heat on, duvets on, and gritters on the road every night, or just the last few days? Are you extrapolating 3 days of data to create a statistical representation of the month?

[EternalOptimist]

EO, are you saying that for the whole month of July you had the heat on, duvets on, and gritters on the road every night, or just the last few days? Are you extrapolating 3 days of data to create a statistical representation of the month?

I am saying that if my ice cream salesman says it is 30, and I am shivering, I would think twice about the veracity of his claim and wonder whether he might have a reason for making such a claim

[DimPrawn]

EO, are you saying that for the whole month of July you had the heat on, duvets on, and gritters on the road every night, or just the last few days? Are you extrapolating 3 days of data to create a statistical representation of the month?

Been lovely and warm in the deep south of England. No heating, sweating like a pig at night.

EO has some scally nicked your roof and windows again? Eh? Eh? Eh?

[EternalOptimist]

Well it's not so warm up here, you pink turd.

in fact , it's so cool even the arctic fauna are on the way down

[pjclarke]

Well it's not so warm up here, you pink turd.

in fact , it's so cool even the arctic fauna are on the way down

The Beluga whale off Northern Ireland was possibly fooled by a cold water anomaly in the North Atlantic, caused by freshwater injection, in turn due to the rapid melting of Greenland ice.



This phenomenon, and the associated slowing down of the AMOC [aka the Gulf Stream] were discussed in a paper early this year, and freshwater injection is discussed widely in the Hansen paper that started this thread (which I've now waded through - it should have been 4 or 5 shorter papers in my view)

Globally, species are heading poleward and uphill, as you'd expect in a warming world.

[pjclarke]

That was the one that warned

Already, according to Randall and Schwartz, the planet is carrying a higher population than it can sustain. By 2020 'catastrophic' shortages of water and energy supply will become increasingly harder to overcome, plunging the planet into war.

Oh, those alarmists …

There is evidence that the 2007−2010 drought contributed to the conflict in Syria. It was the worst drought in the instrumental record, causing widespread crop failure and a mass migration of farming families to urban centers. Century-long observed trends in precipitation, temperature, and sea-level pressure, supported by climate model results, strongly suggest that anthropogenic forcing has increased the probability of severe and persistent droughts in this region, and made the occurrence of a 3-year drought as severe as that of 2007−2010 2 to 3 times more likely than by natural variability alone. We conclude that human influences on the climate system are implicated in the current Syrian conflict.

Paper in PNAS

Climate change in the Fertile Crescent and implications of the recent Syrian drought

[pjclarke]

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