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Budget unfairness on the young

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    Budget unfairness on the young

    Quite a balanced piece in the guardian highlighting the disproportionate hit on young people in the budget. But also highlighting that not all boomers/pensioners are wealthy and there needs to be consideration of both.

    'They want more than we did'
    http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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    It's the Guardian, why would I waste my time reading that utter leftist bilge?

    Look young people, us silver foxes took all the money and all the lovely big spacious houses with land in the best areas. It's been great and we're fooking loaded.

    You spotty faced youngsters have two choices:

    A. Stay in Britain, compete with 600K new immigrants per year for housing, NHS, schools etc. Pay off the national debt. Enjoy.
    B. Piss off somewhere like Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Canada etc and start afresh.

    We don't want to hear your whining thanks.

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      #3
      It will be interesting to see what that supposedly impartial study comes up with.

      Many comparisons seem unfair on a superficial assessment but reality shows a different picture. The "unfairness" of young people not getting student grants for example, does not take account of the fact that the number of people in full time higher education is far higher, up from 410k in 1969 to over 2.3m in 2013. The good students we should be subsidising are having to pay for others to take courses that benefit nobody. This a cost of socialism, not the Tory agenda.

      Higher Education: 19 Nov 1970: House of Commons debates - TheyWorkForYou
      https://www.hesa.ac.uk/stats
      Last edited by xoggoth; 18 July 2015, 13:45.
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        #4
        Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
        Quite a balanced piece in the guardian highlighting the disproportionate hit on young people in the budget. But also highlighting that not all boomers/pensioners are wealthy and there needs to be consideration of both.
        It's their own fault.

        If the young (voters) were organized and at least 90% of them voted, then politicians would have done their best to bribe them. Guess they'll learn when they become pensioners...

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          #5
          Judging by the dimwitted life forms who support OWS, and the fact that some 50% of students support Labour or the Greens, or worse, I.e parties that helped create decaying welfare states propped up by the very debt draining the economic vitality of the young, to say my sympathy is limited would be an understatement, and I am quite young myself. There's no fresh ideas, other than rehashed economic fallacies, and no understanding of the problem, thus the disjointed attacks against the banks which subsidise their debt, as if the problem isn't deeper.
          Last edited by Zero Liability; 18 July 2015, 14:27.

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            #6
            Originally posted by AtW View Post
            It's their own fault.

            If the young (voters) were organized and at least 90% of them voted, then politicians would have done their best to bribe them. Guess they'll learn when they become pensioners...
            To some extent I agree with that. But I think lots of young folk are so busy moving around rentals they find it hard to register. And the whole uni auto reg has been scrapped. LD were supposed to stand up for students. I agree with Nick! [emoji102]
            http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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              #7
              Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
              To some extent I agree with that. But I think lots of young folk are so busy moving around rentals they find it hard to register. And the whole uni auto reg has been scrapped. LD were supposed to stand up for students. I agree with Nick! [emoji102]
              Bottom line is that the young don't vote in sufficiently large numbers for politicians to care.

              Perhaps there is a reason in making everybody vote in General Election, at least this way it would be harder for politicians to shaft particular groups that happen not to vote as much as some other group.

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                #8
                Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                It's the Guardian, why would I waste my time reading that utter leftist bilge?

                Look young people, us silver foxes took all the money and all the lovely big spacious houses with land in the best areas. It's been great and we're fooking loaded.

                You spotty faced youngsters have two choices:

                A. Stay in Britain, compete with 600K new immigrants per year for housing, NHS, schools etc. Pay off the national debt. Enjoy.
                B. Piss off somewhere like Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Canada etc and start afresh.
                I appreciate the honesty. I really do. Many boomers just don't understand how demoralising it is for the young in the UK today. Quite how much of an up hill struggle it is, and how shafted they have been at the expense of BTL and Free Market Capitalism.

                As for going abroad. I read you 5:5. Sadly the same situation exists in many other countries; so need to be careful which to go for. I do like the look of Benelux, and Scandinavia.
                http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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                  #9
                  But young people are young, they got whole life ahead of them, that's totally unfair to middle age crisis men!!!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
                    I appreciate the honesty. I really do. Many boomers just don't understand how demoralising it is for the young in the UK today. Quite how much of an up hill struggle it is, and how shafted they have been at the expense of BTL and Free Market Capitalism.

                    As for going abroad. I read you 5:5. Sadly the same situation exists in many other countries; so need to be careful which to go for. I do like the look of Benelux, and Scandinavia.
                    Most people are so shafted they refer to this system as "free market capitalism", when it is nothing of the sort. It is rigged by the political class, through and through.

                    Originally posted by AtW View Post
                    Bottom line is that the young don't vote in sufficiently large numbers for politicians to care.

                    Perhaps there is a reason in making everybody vote in General Election, at least this way it would be harder for politicians to shaft particular groups that happen not to vote as much as some other group.
                    If they did vote, I fear it'd be even worse.

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