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you tried raising a family of 4 on £6.50 an hour?Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostMinimum wage is a living wage. It's just we have to have tellies, cigs, booze, mobile phones, latest clobba from the shop, cars, takeaways, game boys, play stations. People have their priorities the wrong way round.
Friends of mine do and they have my admiration.
That's £260 a week. After rent, energy, water & council tax there is sod all left.
I spend that on our mortgage.Comment
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But that's my point. You've just calculated 40 * 6.50 per week. Two adults, two kids. Work a bit harder if two ends don't meet. Why is it always down to the rest of us to bail out people who don't want to work, don't want to get educated to get a proper job, don't want to do overtime, or god forbid cannot be bothered to get a job. I'm sick and tired of working my arse off to look after others.Originally posted by vetran View Postyou tried raising a family of 4 on £6.50 an hour?
Friends of mine do and they have my admiration.
That's £260 a week. After rent, energy, water & council tax there is sod all left.
I spend that on our mortgage.
If we didn't have benefits, food banks and a free NHS then frankly those at the bottom of the chain would have dropped off the ladder by now.What happens in General, stays in General.You know what they say about assumptions!Comment
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Very few jobs pay you based on how hard you work. Tesco don't pay per can of beans you put on the shelf.Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostIf you get benefits when you're in work, then you're not working ******* hard enough.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Yeah, there were no poor people before the welfare state... just look at all those countries without such things and you can see poverty has been eradicated.Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostIf we didn't have benefits, food banks and a free NHS then frankly those at the bottom of the chain would have dropped off the ladder by now.
Or not.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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I was working 65 hours at the age of 18. I had three jobs, all of them on minimum wage. I then saved the money to go to University a few years later where I got a decent education. There was no-one to pay for me.Originally posted by d000hg View PostVery few jobs pay you based on how hard you work. Tesco don't pay per can of beans you put on the shelf.
I had debt when I left University and the day after I left I immediately went to stacking shelves in a supermarket & took a bar job while I looked for something better.
There are no excuses.What happens in General, stays in General.You know what they say about assumptions!Comment
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Because we have a low wage economy where a lot of people are on minimum wage and little prospect of earning much more
I've a lot more sympathy for people struggling on low wages, than those who give up and stayed unemployed as a career
Pay them a living wage, and we might have to pay a little more into the service sector shopping but that's going into there pocket, and most likely to be spent on booze and fags thus being heavily taxed
At the moment we subsidise companies to keep staff on minimum wage, meanwhile the proles think they are getting free money in the form of tax credits from the sparkly magic tree that produces an infinite source of money to bribe them with our moneySocialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.
No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.Comment
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Hang in there MF. Something will turn up eventually! Failing that you could always go back to "working the docks" at Brixham to supplement things.Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostI was working 65 hours at the age of 18. I had three jobs, all of them on minimum wage. I then saved the money to go to University a few years later where I got a decent education. There was no-one to pay for me.
I had debt when I left University and the day after I left I immediately went to stacking shelves in a supermarket & took a bar job while I looked for something better.
“The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”Comment
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We didn't have minimum wage when you were 18.
But anyway, so what? Not everyone can find one job, let alone 3... I know people who are smart and very keen to get work who struggle to even get a temporary job in a shop.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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So give food to the food bank rather than giving money to the food bank.Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostFood banks are better than just giving money
Or give your time to the food bank if you are lucky enough to not be on the breadline and have some time to spare.Comment
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