SNP in practice

[d000hg]

Anyone who thinks borrowing more money when you are already in debt is a good idea so you end up paying more back in interest is just an idiot.

Not true. If you spend all the money you've borrowed, and have bills that MUST be paid, further borrowing is the only option. Even businesses frequently take out more borrowing when already in debt, when that money will be used for growth.

Anyone who wants a one-sided disarmament of our nuclear deterrent in an increasingly uncertain world is a dangerous idiot.

Ridiculous.

[Batcher]

I can smell something coming from Sturgeon, more tulip than fear though. Considering she is only likely to get about 4-5% of the UK vote, she is getting a disproportionate amount of media attention.

Anyone who thinks borrowing more money when you are already in debt is a good idea so you end up paying more back in interest is just an idiot. Anyone who wants a one-sided disarmament of our nuclear deterrent in an increasingly uncertain world is a dangerous idiot.

She has 6 MPs at the moment, likely to rise to 40+ if the polls are correct. That's a lot more than Farage yet he gets more air time.

Trident can never be used. It's of absolutely no use to stop terrorist attacks or conventional forces attacking us. Also, it needs the Americans to give the go-ahead to use it so it's not 'our' nuclear deterrent.

There are lots of countries who don't have nuclear weapons and who don't get attacked by those who do. Why is that, do you think?

We have to lead by example. If we get rid of ours then other countries wouldn't need them and would scale back their WMD arsenals. Only an idiot wouldn't agree that having less WMDs would be a good thing for the world.

[MicrosoftBob]

Not true. If you spend all the money you've borrowed, and have bills that MUST be paid, further borrowing is the only option. Even businesses frequently take out more borrowing when already in debt, when that money will be used for growth.

Ridiculous.

But that isn't what will happen, it's borrowing to increase recurring expenditure,

That is the Gordon Brown definition of growth, borrowing money to increase your recurring expenditure and calling it growth

The business equivalent is seeing sales fall, and borrowing money to invest in giving senior management more corporate jets

[MicrosoftBob]

We have to lead by example. If we get rid of ours then other countries wouldn't need them and would scale back their WMD arsenals. Only an idiot wouldn't agree that having less WMDs would be a good thing for the world.

Do you think Iran would be less likely to nuke us if we got rid of nuclear weapons ?

[TestMangler]

Do you think Iran would be less likely to nuke us if we got rid of nuclear weapons ?

And Iraq have nuclear weapons that could be deployed against the UK within 45 mins !!!

[minestrone]

Trident can never be used. It's of absolutely no use to stop terrorist attacks or conventional forces attacking us. Also, it needs the Americans to give the go-ahead to use it so it's not 'our' nuclear deterrent.

Although widely reported that is not actually true.

[sartois]

She has 6 MPs at the moment, likely to rise to 40+ if the polls are correct. That's a lot more than Farage yet he gets more air time.

Maybe I time it wrong or read the wrong papers.. just my perception, not based on any scientific fact.

Trident can never be used. It's of absolutely no use to stop terrorist attacks or conventional forces attacking us. Also, it needs the Americans to give the go-ahead to use it so it's not 'our' nuclear deterrent.

There are lots of countries who don't have nuclear weapons and who don't get attacked by those who do. Why is that, do you think?

We have to lead by example. If we get rid of ours then other countries wouldn't need them and would scale back their WMD arsenals. Only an idiot wouldn't agree that having less WMDs would be a good thing for the world.

There is a significant chunk of this planet that hates us. They are not ambivalent to us, they genuinely hate us for whatever we have done in the past, for crazy religious reasons, or whatever. They don't follow our lead in democracy, or how we treat people, so not sure why would they follow our lead in this. Who knows what the world will be like in 5/10/20/50 years and whether we need them or not. The idea of a deterrent is not so that you use them, it's to deter others from using theirs. The kind of thinking that suggests if we make our defenses weaker the rest of the world will follow is the sort of thinking that is best left to Miss World competitions, not running countries.

[MicrosoftBob]

Run for the hills!

I already have, why do you think I live up a mountain

If anything kicks off I've got a bolt hole away from any potential nuclear strike sites, civil unrest etc

[Batcher]

Do you think Iran would be less likely to nuke us if we got rid of nuclear weapons ?

Yes they would be less likely.

Having WMDs makes us a target because the first thing anyone attacking would do is try to stop you retaliating by taking out your weapons first. If we don't have them then they would point their weapons at the countries who do.

Anyway, the minute someone sends a nuclear missile in anger means game over for all of us whether we have WMDs or not.

[d000hg]

If Iran nuked the UK, or any similar nation, all the others who have nukes would retaliate. US certainly would.