the election challengers debate

[MicrosoftBob]

You should try reading something other than The Dail Fail or The Torygraph for your facts.

Scotland puts in more than it gets out. The money we get via the Barnett Formula has to be budgeted for in the Scottish Parliament. The fact is, we choose to use it on the things above plus removing bridge tolls, freezing council tax the past 8 years, etc.

The money England/Wales gets in could easily be used to provide those things in your country but you choose to spend them on other things. Your ire shouldn't be aimed at Scotland but at your own MPs.

Apart from Scotland gets disproportionately more per head than the rest of the UK, so the there isn't the money to spend unless you go the Labour magic money tree route and borrow more money

A fair funding model would mean you'd get less money not more, and you get out more than put in unless you used doctored SNP sources that make up the numbers

[minestrone]

You should try reading something other than The Dail Fail or The Torygraph for your facts.

Scotland puts in more than it gets out. The money we get via the Barnett Formula has to be budgeted for in the Scottish Parliament. The fact is, we choose to use it on the things above plus removing bridge tolls, freezing council tax the past 8 years, etc.

The money England/Wales gets in could easily be used to provide those things in your country but you choose to spend them on other things. Your ire shouldn't be aimed at Scotland but at your own MPs.

Scotland has not made as surplus since 1979/1980, Scotland is currently getting 1400 more per head than England for local government and we are producing 300 quid less in tax per head than England. Considering that England is running a deficit of about 60 billion Scotland would be heading back to 2008 style financial Armageddon with fiscal autonomy or independence.

The complete refusal to acknowledge this by the SNP and the fact that so many people don't understand or believe this only proves how fecking thick a great many inhabitants of Scotland are.

[Zero Liability]

The SNP and Plaid Cymru compete directly for votes with the other national parties, whereas the DUP and the other NI parties only compete amongst themselves.

Indeed but the vast majority of the country can't vote for either, so they're mostly an irrelevance, carried on the back of the FPTP system in the case of the SNP to something a little more than that, but ultimately still irrelevant to most English voters. So if we're going to have a bunch of irrelevant parties there, why not a less lefty one?

[SueEllen]

Due to the Barnett Formula Scotland currently get

- free prescriptions
- free eye tests
- free old age personal care
- no student tuition fees

That Sturgeon (b/w)itch won't give up an inch of that, in fact she'll be pressing for so much more.
It's a fu****g liberty !

Regardless of the arguments over how much Scotland puts in, you are easily conned.

No uni tuition fees is a pander to the middle classes. Scotland has really cut back on vocational education. So the working classes who would do vocational courses that could lead them to end up at university in their early 20s no longer have this route.

Prescriptions etc are headline grabbing but most people who get prescriptions are exempt from paying.

[mudskipper]

Voodoo for beginners, or how to knit a Nigel Farage pin cushion – Now. Here. This. – Time Out London

[Zero Liability]

Oh my... so there was bias in the selection process.

Very much doubt that if you compare this to average of voting intention polls that it will look anything like this, seeing as the Tories and UKIP take up near of 50% of these at any given time. Even if you factor in the regional parties, it will not alter this by much at all, seeing how small a % of the total population they comprise and how, even within that %, they command only a subsection of votes within these areas. The BBC also neglected to mention this on its website:

In addition one fifth of the audience was made up of ‘undecided voters’ from the local area around Westminster.

Which, from the same polling, we know is very Labour-leaning.

Though this is probably what is grating on the nerves of supporters of the party more than anything else: https://www.change.org/p/bbc-involve...K2D3rh84IIoX2E

[DodgyAgent]

I think you will find that Nick Fitz is working on an audience and panel selection system for the BBC

[darmstadt]

I think you will find that Nick Fitz is working on an audience and panel selection system for the BBC

Typical kipper:

[darmstadt]

I think you will find that Nick Fitz is working on an audience and panel selection system for the BBC

Educated kipper:

[darmstadt]

I think you will find that Nick Fitz is working on an audience and panel selection system for the BBC

Clever kipper: