The Debate

[Unix]

Yeah, but IIRC, you thought Scotland would vote for Independence, so your track record is pretty toxic!!

I thought they should, obviously I underestimated the stupidity of pensioners

[d000hg]

I did not see the Cameron exchange but Miliband got brutalised by Paxman.

So did Cameron. If anything, Paxman was less brutal with Milliband and let him off the hook about details and allowed him to push his 'vision'.

Miliband came across much better, he got applause from the audience for taking on Paxman. Cameron just looked the same as he always looks, a Posh boy robot. The fact he shat it in the first place is a disgrace.

I was impressed how Milliband came across compared to what I expected, but Cameron comes across as more substantial and measured.

Paxman was definitely meaner on Ed - not so much the nature of the questions but the cross-talk, interruptions and argument, Cameron was allowed more time to answer questions. Perhaps Cameron's just better at dealing with Paxman, but it seemed ike he had it in for Milliband to me.

I wondered how much they knew about the questions in advance because Dave particularly seemed very polished.

[shaunbhoy]

I thought they should, obviously I underestimated the logic of pensioners in that they were not prepared to throw away a lifetime of experience merely to satisfy the flawed idealistic naivety of the young and reckless

FTFY

[sartois]

What's this latest obsession with food banks? Is it just me that thinks that they are quite useful for people who are incapable of budgeting their money responsibly and allow people to still eat even though they have spent all their money on booze,fags,sky etc.

It's all very well jumping up and shouting about it, but what's the solution - give people more free money?

[hyperD]

"hell yes I am tough enough"

Wallace: "Hell yeah, pass that rice pudding and I'll rip the skin off...grrr"

[SantaClaus]

What's this latest obsession with food banks? Is it just me that thinks that they are quite useful for people who are incapable of budgeting their money responsibly and allow people to still eat even though they have spent all their money on booze,fags,sky etc.

It's all very well jumping up and shouting about it, but what's the solution - give people more free money?

Wow I don't need to read the Daily Mail anymore. Can just come on here instead.

[MicrosoftBob]

What's this latest obsession with food banks? Is it just me that thinks that they are quite useful for people who are incapable of budgeting their money responsibly and allow people to still eat even though they have spent all their money on booze,fags,sky etc.

It's all very well jumping up and shouting about it, but what's the solution - give people more free money?

The problem appears to be a low wage economy where those at the bottom end of the market are always living hand to mouth

[d000hg]

What's this latest obsession with food banks? Is it just me that thinks that they are quite useful for people who are incapable of budgeting their money responsibly and allow people to still eat even though they have spent all their money on booze,fags,sky etc.

I'm sure it's not just you, ignorance often has plenty of company.

They exist as an emergency measure when for instance you lose your job, start claiming benefits but have to wait weeks/months for your application to be processed. Or when you turn up 10min late to the JobCentre and receive a benefits sanction whereby they stop your benefits for a month.

However they are quite widely used even by working families who have hit tough times, it's not just a soup kitchen for the unemployed. For one thing, you have to get referred to them (or at least I believe this is the case), you can't just turn up every week asking for food.

Most people hate having to use them, and are pretty embarrassed, from what I know (I know several people involved in running FBs and our church is quite involved in the local projects).

[original PM]

What's this latest obsession with food banks? Is it just me that thinks that they are quite useful for people who are incapable of budgeting their money responsibly and allow people to still eat even though they have spent all their money on booze,fags,sky etc.

It's all very well jumping up and shouting about it, but what's the solution - give people more free money?

The fact is there will always be poverty in the UK and is not just to do with low wage jobs etc etc.

It is down to the fact some people are simple incapable of leading a life where they can support themselves.

And blaming it on politicians/the rich/the middle class is just fookin stupid as the issue is not within politics or money but down to human beings being human.

[minestrone]

Foodbanks were a political football in the referendum.

As soon as you said you were voting no someone would be screaming "YOU ARE THE ROOT CAUSE OF STARVING CHILDREN" in your face.