Peter Oborne quites Daily Telegraph.

[unixman]

Now lets not be beastly to Polly.

No it was for subscriptions.

[xoggoth]

Covered the topic before but if you read Polly stuff she is actually pretty sensible much of the time.

On Charlie Hebdo Pope Francis is using the wife-beater’s defence.

On the day another cartoonist victim was buried at Père Lachaise cemetery, the pope came as near as dammit to suggesting that Charlie Hebdo had it coming. “One cannot provoke; one cannot insult other people’s faith; one cannot make fun of faith,” he said.

Oh yes, you can. You may not choose to. It may not be wise or polite or kind – but you can.

As the Lords debate Lord Falconer’s bill on assisted dying today, expect the forces of faith to line the red benches in strength. The 26 bishops will be sending in their men, while rarely seen backwoods Christians and all the other faiths will be there.

The right to die is the last great freedom still to be won by my generation, before we all drop off the perch.

Even in socialist, redistribution of wealth articles you don't agree with in general, she makes some valid points:

The government boasts that two-thirds of those who have gained most from raising the personal tax threshold are women. But they don’t explain why: women are still clustered in the lowest paying jobs.

All articles by Polly Toynbee - journalisted.com

[darmstadt]

Try criticising the Guardian in their comments sections or posting about how their holding company is an offshore trust and you'll see your comment swiftly disappear. The only newspaper to trust is this one

[DodgyAgent]

Covered the topic before but if you read Polly stuff she is actually pretty sensible much of the time.





Even in socialist, redistribution of wealth articles you don't agree with in general, she makes some valid points:



All articles by Polly Toynbee - journalisted.com

They are few and far between. She is consistent even though she is driven by envy and competitive instinct rather than any genuine desire for social justice

[MicrosoftBob]

They are few and far between. She is consistent even though she is driven by a desire to fund her champagne socialist Tuscany lifestyle rather than any genuine desire for social justice

FTFY

[xoggoth]

They are few and far between.

Depends on the subject. On economy I disagree with her but some social issues I rather agree. One thing I don't like about the right is the frequent association with religion and the consequently illiberal views on social policies like gay marriage, right to die, abortion etc.

No fool on immigration either. Like lefty Bob Crow, she's prepared to consider the negative impacts on our own workers.

[DodgyAgent]

Depends on the subject. On economy I disagree with her but some social issues I rather agree. One thing I don't like about the right is the frequent association with religion and the consequently illiberal views on social policies like gay marriage, right to die, abortion etc.

No fool on immigration either. Like lefty Bob Crow, she's prepared to consider the negative impacts on our own workers.

I admire her consistency on immigration.She is unlike most lefties who want to see the ruin of the Tory establishment represented by anglo saxon culture and free enterprise. But just like a lot of lefties her real agenda is against wealthy people rather than "for" anyone. She thinks good riddance to tax exiles and has a fawning obsession with the need to tax people. if she were genuinely concerned about social justice she would be directing far more energy at questioning how taxes are spent.

She sees tax as a punishment just like the rest of them.

[Zero Liability]

I still like the Torygraph second best of all the mainstream papers, after the FT (not enough for its price tag, though). It's not a wild stretch to assume that they're all biased in their own way, and it's only an issue (if facts are of interest to you) if it's all you read, exclusively.

[NickFitz]

…they, as Guardian readers, are always right, and better than everyone else (I added that bit).

Yes. Yes, we are

[zemoxyl]

The guardian and independent hardly pander to the world of capitalism.

Really?

I take my hat off to the Grauniad for a particularly smart piece of capitalism : they bought the then Autotrader website during a recession for a paltry £150 million, let it wind up through economic expansion and sold it off in two tranches for £1,000 million. That sort of capitalism really warms the cockles of my heart.

BTW I love Autotrader and have used it over the decades.