Treating candidates like s%!t

[DodgyAgent]

Honestly I find the market is treating us badly and hirers and agencies alike are behaving like complete *****.

I got a "no" for a gig just before Christmas. I quite literally flipped when that was all the feedback I got. Especially as I'd already shaved my day rate down.

So I persisted, politely. I will call you tomorrow at this time etc etc.

After several chases, it was deemed I had too many short contracts on my cv. It was ever thus. So I was binned. How much utter bollux would it have saved just to give that feedback in the first place?

Other reasons include that as I don't have enough experience in xyz open source scripting framework, angular.js being the main blocker. So I have to learn it, and then lie on my cv?

How easy would it be for a seasoned developer to pick it up? How long would it take some greasy pimply oik fresh out of college with 18 months experience of angular.js to pick up my 17 years of hard fought and won experience?

The market seems to forget what contracting is about, what the value of experience is, and places little value on basic manners.

It drives me crazy, and I have to sit on the bench watching my ******* world fall apart, while getting treated like a **** into the bargain. It's enough to send a sane individual round the bend.

Also the absolute horsetulip that gets posted on job serve these days is shocking.

So why have you got so many short contracts on your CV? And more importantly why have you not got second contracts at one client?

[FatLazyContractor]

Why is everyone attacking Suity and treating him like tulip?

[DodgyAgent]

Why is everyone attacking Suity and treating him like tulip?

It's called "tough love"

[suityou01]

Not turning up for the interviews is a big avoid in my opinion.

You know I felt the same when your hiring manager failed to turn up. And now that you're getting tulipcanned it looks like I dodged a bullet.

[suityou01]

So why have you got so many short contracts on your CV? And more importantly why have you not got second contracts at one client?

Apart from one, all the contracts were short because that is what was required. We need a business process created and rolled out in 3 months. That is perfectly reasonable.

I have examples of contracts that were 4 weeks and extended up to 11 months. I have examples of where I have gone back to work at a company after several months.

[psychocandy]

Reasons why you get no feedback

Clients:-
1. Cant be arsed/too busy.
2. The role never got signed off so cant be arsed now.
3. Got someone so why worry about who didnt now.
4. Got someone lined up but waiting for them to say yes/turn up. So why not keep 2nd choice hanging on just in case. If you tell them a deffo no they might go off and get something else.

Agents:-
1. Why bother being polite/professional if theres no money in it.
2. As (4) for clients.

[suityou01]

Why is everyone attacking Suity and treating him like tulip?

I honestly wouldn't mind if it backed off a smidge. Making enjoying using the board very difficult.

[eek]

So why have you got so many short contracts on your CV? And more importantly why have you not got second contracts at one client?

That second comment is slightly uncalled for. There are clearly people in Germany who find him useful / competent (although I fear its maybe more due to entertainment than actual things produced based on his thread from Monday).

[Contractoid]

Client - Doesn't have to and will not give a tulip. He has the money and is the king.

Agency - Pimp. Hope you know what a pimp does.

Got it. But the point is that doesn't give them the right to behave like a-holes.

If a company runs a competieve sourcing process and a short listing stage takes place, the rejected bidders are told then and there, not after the f&*%$£g contract gets signed several weeks down the line.

Why?

1. Because its the right thing to do
2. Beacuse the companies involved have invested time and money to take part (OK cost of doing business but at least this is being recognised)
3. Because there is absolutely no competitibe advantage to be gained by spinning it out
4. Because you want to retain your reputation in the industry
5. Because in some cases, depening on industry ITS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT!

Why should the fact its David vs Goliath mean that these principles don't apply?

[DodgyAgent]

Apart from one, all the contracts were short because that is what was required. We need a business process created and rolled out in 3 months. That is perfectly reasonable.

I have examples of contracts that were 4 weeks and extended up to 11 months. I have examples of where I have gone back to work at a company after several months.

Fair enough. And there's me thinking you were just sh*t