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Who else is reading the CIA report?

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    Who else is reading the CIA report?

    Not the actions of a civilised society. And to think our PM at the time was in bed with Bush.

    "Accordingto[DUNBAR],therewereapproximatelyfiveCIAofficersfromtherendi tions team. Each one had a role during the takedown and it was thoroughly planned and rehearsed. They opened the door ofRahman'scellandrushedinscreamingandyellingforhim to'getdown.' Theydraggedhimoutside,cutoffhis clothes and secured him with Mylar tape. They covered his head with a hood and ran him up and down a long corridoradjacenttohiscell.Theyslappedhimandpunched himseveraltimes. [DUNBAR]statedthatalthoughit was obvious they were not trying to hit him as hard as they could, a couple of times the punches were forceful. As they ran him along the corridor, a couple of times he fell and they dragged him through the dirt (the floor outside of the cells is dirt). Rahman did acquire a numberof abrasions on his face, legs, and hands, but nothing that required medical attention. (This may account for the abrasions found on Rahman's body after his death.

    On November!, 2002, [CIA OFFICER 1] ordered that Gul Rahman be shackled to the wall of his cell in a position that required the detainee to rest on
    the bare concrete floor. Rahman was wearing only a sweatshirt, as [CIA OFFICER 1] had ordered that Rahman's clothing be removed when he had been judged to be uncooperative during an earlier interrogation. The next day, the guards found Gul Rahman's dead body. An internal CIA review and autopsy assessed that Rahman likely died from hypothermia—in part
    Last edited by scooterscot; 11 December 2014, 08:44.
    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    Not the actions of a civilised society. And to think our PM at the time was in bed with Bush.
    Yes, but he is now the ME Peace Envoy

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      #3
      Civility is relative, not an absolute.

      I have absolutely zero sympathy for this person.

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        #4
        Originally posted by minestrone View Post
        Civility is relative, not an absolute.

        I have absolutely zero sympathy for this person.
        The day we stoop to their level we've already lost.
        "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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          #5
          Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
          The day we stoop to their level we've prevented more attacks.
          FTFY. HTH

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            #6
            Originally posted by FatLazyContractor View Post
            FTFY. HTH
            Weakness in mind is no substitute for lost strength. We should be setting an example not fighting fire with fire.
            "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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              #7
              Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
              Weakness in mind is no substitute for lost strength. We should be setting an example not fighting fire with fire.
              Modern warfare, nature of the devil and all that son. Everything is relative.

              Do you expect the "allies" to take a Yoga guru to these scoundrels and teach them meditation, peace and a truck load of bollox?

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                #8
                Originally posted by FatLazyContractor View Post
                Modern warfare, nature of the devil and all that son. Everything is relative.

                Do you expect the "allies" to take a Yoga guru to these scoundrels and teach them meditation, peace and a truck load of bollox?
                And yet the West has brought Russia to its knees without firing a bullet.
                "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
                  And yet the West has brought Russia to its knees without firing a bullet.
                  The west hasn't "yet" got the round things that hang around it's thighs to fire a bullet at Russia. Do you read the Scottish Herald for news lad?

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                    #10
                    This guy was a suspected militant. Emphasis on suspected.

                    And they tortured him to death.

                    He was dragged in because he was visiting a doctor for a medical check-up when that doctor was arrested due to the doctors links to terrorism.


                    By that justification, any one of you could be tortured to death if your GP happened to be a militant and he was arrested while you were there.

                    You have to be amazingly short-sighted to not see how that precedent is more dangerous than any terrorist attack this abuse might have prevented.

                    The presumption of innocence until proven guilty is the fundamental bedrock of our society because without it anyone can be claimed to be suspected of anything and then abused based on that.

                    Welcome to 21st century witch-hunting :S
                    Last edited by NickyBoy; 11 December 2014, 11:47.

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