I think that's rather DA's point. Labour tends to cloak it with their social justice rhetoric.
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Originally posted by Zero Liability View PostI think that's rather DA's point. Labour tends to cloak it with their social justice rhetoric.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by Zero Liability View PostIt doesn't alter the fact that whatever the provenance of his beliefs he's more than happy to stick others with the costsOriginally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostUntil Gates and Buffet get into power, or we multiply MP salaries 10000X that's the only way any government CAN work.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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At least Gordon Brown kept the UK out of the Euro.
Whatever his reasons, to my mind that trumps all his other supposed follies.Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ hereComment
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostAt least Gordon Brown kept the UK out of the Euro.
Whatever his reasons, to my mind that trumps all his other supposed follies.
At least his history degree was useful for something..."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostThere is no way we should allow people like Gates and Buffet to have such power. The system works fine just as long as we voters understand what is really going on and not be fooled by the siren call of a politician claiming he is driven by a desire for "social justice".
As for Gates and Buffett, at least they only involve their own money in their schemes, to the extent that they aren't advocating government to pour money into some policy of their liking.Comment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostThere is no way we should allow people like Gates and Buffet to have such power. The system works fine just as long as we voters understand what is really going on and not be fooled by the siren call of a politician claiming he is driven by a desire for "social justice".
There is no way for us as voters to understand enough of what's going on to make rational voting decisions, because the systems of government are so large and complex that understanding them at even an abstract level requires specialist knowledge. The systems themselves cannot be simplified too much, because their complexity is an unavoidable result of governing 80 million people.
This leads to people either disengaging from politics, voting non-rationally based on the words of demagogues (Lib/Lab/Con politicians) or voting for those that try to distil complex problems down into fatally flawed simple solutions that sound-bite well (UKIP politicans).
We are not really a democracy any more. We are an Ochlocracy. The generalisation of political positions into something as simple as 'Right and Left' and policies into 'Capitalistic' or 'Socialist' is just another symptom of the lack of reason inherent in an Ochlocracy.Comment
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Originally posted by NickyBoy View PostIt's another expression of the fundamental problem in our Democracy - it's too big. I don't mean too big as in 'government is too big' I mean too big as in 'too many people are governed by it'.
There is no way for us as voters to understand enough of what's going on to make rational voting decisions, because the systems of government are so large and complex that understanding them at even an abstract level requires specialist knowledge. The systems themselves cannot be simplified too much, because their complexity is an unavoidable result of governing 80 million people.
This leads to people either disengaging from politics, voting non-rationally based on the words of demagogues (Lib/Lab/Con politicians) or voting for those that try to distil complex problems down into fatally flawed simple solutions that sound-bite well (UKIP politicans).
We are not really a democracy any more. We are an Ochlocracy. The generalisation of political positions into something as simple as 'Right and Left' and policies into 'Capitalistic' or 'Socialist' is just another symptom of the lack of reason inherent in an Ochlocracy.
Anarchy it is thenLet us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by OwlHoot View PostAt least Gordon Brown kept the UK out of the Euro.
Whatever his reasons, to my mind that trumps all his other supposed follies.
That's why he had his made-up tests, to give HMG an excuse not to hold it until the public swung in favour. Which it never did.Comment
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