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Gordon Brown's legacy
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Gordon Brown brought an end to the perennial cycle of boom and bust.
After he had been in charge we were only left with bust and bust.“The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”Comment
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Originally posted by Doggy Styles View PostTo be fair to dodgy there, it wasn't a case of right-wing v left-wing that you are trying to paint it as. It was showing Brown as more disingenuous.
Yes.
I think the argument about left vs right is not the one we are discussing hereLet us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostI am afraid that until someone shows me an example of how socialism works to the benefit of the people rather than those who control its functions then that is precisely what I will always believe. It does not work, it never has and it never will.
Originally posted by Doggy Styles View PostTo be fair to dodgy there, it wasn't a case of right-wing v left-wing that you are trying to paint it as. It was showing Brown as more disingenuous.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostI wasn't debating whether socialism works. I was debating whether you believe anyone else believes it works. You generally speak as if you think socialists know it won't work and can only be following the dogma for personal gain - e.g. you view everything through capitalist eyes.
See aboveLet us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostI am quite sure others believe that socialism is the way to make society work and they will argue their case convincingly I am sure.
“The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”Comment
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But isn't the pinnacle of anyone's career in politics to become PM
And then once you have done that you should have to just fe<k offComment
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Originally posted by shaunbhoy View PostYes, and it will all seem rosy right up until the point that they attempt to put it into practice..............at which point all the wheels generally fall off as human nature takes over.
Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostI am not arguing it from any sort of position other than from what I see in contemporary and past human behaviour. Very few human beings behave or think according to logic. Belief has little to do with practicality and logic. I am quite sure others believe that socialism is the way to make society work and they will argue their case convincingly I am sure.Last edited by Zero Liability; 2 December 2014, 18:34.Comment
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Originally posted by Zero Liability View PostEspecially since it involves forcing others into footing the bill. That said, irrespective of how many politicians genuinely believe what they espouse, I've little doubt Brown is a narcissist, and a very incompetent one at that. Some say sociopath - maybe. It doesn't alter the fact that whatever the provenance of his beliefs he's more than happy to stick others with the costs. And I have no doubt many 'leftist' politicians are little more than elitist technocrats, under the delusion that they and their bureaucrats know how everyone else ought to live, facilitated by their class warfare ideology and willingness to indulge the egos of supposed underclasses. Snake oil, plain and simple."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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