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    #31
    My motto is "he who dares"

    I dabbled with a modest investment for around 8 years. For the first two to three it halved then it went back up, then it went down and then it soared. At the end of the 8 years I calculated I'd made an annual 10-11% return, which is what the text books told me it would do. So this was the signal, I then invested a lot more money. In 2008 my portfolio went down 50% ....but I'd learned so waded in with even more investments.

    I recently reviewed my portfolio and I would say it's yielded around 10%.

    Conclusion.....stocks give consistently the highest returns of any investments, but it's a rollercoaster ride. If you are going to make money, in the process you will crash and burn from time to time. However once you've crashed and recovered, the crashes don't bother you anymore. My portfolio lost 25% last year, but it was so far up on the initial investment it just depressed my annual return. As you go on the money you "lose" will have been generated by the stock market so it doesn't matter, and in any case as it always does, it recovers.

    If you do this it is a good idea to go and learn the fundamentals, be able to analyse the annual statements i.e. balance sheets, understand key ratios so you know it's a well valued stock, and then you can't really go wrong, learn how to build a well balanced portfolio. You need a source to give you investment ideas. There are plenty of sources, investor mags you can read.

    If you follow an index tracker or build a portfolio from leading blue chip companies in the index (preferable in my view, because you can cut out the dogs) you can make a reasonable return without having to do anything.

    Generally start with a small portfolio and build up slowly over time; If you hold money back a crash isn't traumatic because you know you can simply buy cheap stocks and make an even better return in the long term than if the stock market never crashed at all.

    A couple of rules I have, never invest more than 5% in any one stock (10% for a small portfolio) and hold 50% of the value of the portfolio in cash to wade in after a crash. My experience is that a crash is 50% down and a correction is 20-30%.

    For those with an adventurous spirit, I do believe there are some reasonably priced stocks on Moscow exchange
    Last edited by BlasterBates; 10 September 2014, 06:29.
    I'm alright Jack

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      #32
      Originally posted by d000hg View Post
      I bet they're not hoping to be compared to Microsoft at all in terms of security!
      right, meant to say the new Apple, erm darn, icloud. Google then.

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        #33
        Been buying shares into a Hargreaves Lansdown SIPP for years now.
        'value investing'; buying on the dips and only low p/e and high yield.


        The thing to watch out for is that a sure sign of a market crash is somebody coming asking
        ' Anyone here buy shares?'

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          #34
          Originally posted by RSoles View Post
          The thing to watch out for is that a sure sign of a market crash is somebody coming asking
          ' Anyone here buy shares?'
          Anyone else feeling really depressed at the moment
          Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
          I can't see any way to do it can you please advise?

          I want my account deleted and all of my information removed, I want to invoke my right to be forgotten.

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            #35
            Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
            Anyone else feeling really depressed at the moment
            Now is the time to buy

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              #36
              Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
              Anyone else feeling really depressed at the moment
              A tad.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Bunk View Post
                Now is the time to buy
                Possibly, possibly not. If you're in it for the long-term, any time is a good time to buy, and it's only a question of degree. If your timeframe is a couple of months, who knows, the markets could go much lower, because they are controlled by sentiment on short timescales, not fundamentals.

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                  #38
                  How about:

                  Now is a better time to buy than a month ago...

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
                    Possibly, possibly not. If you're in it for the long-term, any time is a good time to buy, and it's only a question of degree. If your timeframe is a couple of months, who knows, the markets could go much lower, because they are controlled by sentiment on short timescales, not fundamentals.
                    What happens if the market is currently being driven by fundamentals not sentiment...

                    I think sentiment was keeping it up now reality regarding China.... is dawning on people...
                    merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by eek View Post
                      What happens if the market is currently being driven by fundamentals not sentiment...

                      I think sentiment was keeping it up now reality regarding China.... is dawning on people...
                      In the short-term, it's difficult to see the wood for the trees on fundamentals and, for this reason, sentiment takes over. You could name at least ten different pressures at the moment - China, global slowdown, European deflation, end of tapering in the US, US midterms, geopolitical tensions at highs in various places, Ebola etc. All of these are drivers of sentiment. By long-term, I mean 25 years. Unless you think that something has fundamentally changed in the West (in which case, nothing is safe), then a 25-year picture separates the fluff.

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