Wasting Police Time

[vetran]

The NHS feels You should just shut up and do what the doctor says? Because you are getting it for free

FTFY

[Batcher]

Apparently the treatment costs £100,000 per patient so it's possible the treatment was refused on cost grounds based on the likelyhood of success/failure.

The police could have raised an alert for people to look out for them due to medical advice for the lad but to treat them like criminals when they hadn't actually committed a crime was criminal.

[SueEllen]

The NHS feels You should just shut up and do what the doctor says? Because you are getting it for free

Not all doctors believe that.

I've met a few people over the last few months whose consultants are waiting on NICE to approve drugs so they can prescribe it for them. These people actually asked the consultants about the drugs for their disease.

On the other hand some consultants refuse to believe the expensive drug they have prescribed for someone has caused some of the horrible side-effects listed.

[minestrone]

I don't think anyone looks good out of this.

[Old Greg]

I would not be surprised if we are not being told the whole story. Time will tell.

[eek]

I would not be surprised if we are not being told the whole story. Time will tell.

Its the press. When do you ever get the whole story....

[Old Greg]

Its the press. When do you ever get the whole story....

The hospital will be restrained from telling its full story. I've worked on wards (and later on related policies and IT implementations) where JWs' children have been very sick and difficult discussions have been had around treatment plans involving blood products. While the proton beam therapy is not such a treatment, I wonder if there had been previous discussions which alerted the child's healthcare team to potential conflicts which might lead to parents deviating from a consensus of which treatments were of overall benefit to the child. It would also be interesting to know whether the child had been assessed for the NHS protocol for funded proton beam therapy and whether a second opinion had been sought.

[MarillionFan]

The hospital will be restrained from telling its full story. I've worked on wards (and later on related policies and IT implementations) where JWs' children have been very sick and difficult discussions have been had around treatment plans involving blood products. While the proton beam therapy is not such a treatment, I wonder if there had been previous discussions which alerted the child's healthcare team to potential conflicts which might lead to parents deviating from a consensus of which treatments were of overall benefit to the child. It would also be interesting to know whether the child had been assessed for the NHS protocol for funded proton beam therapy and whether a second opinion had been sought.

Ah yes please do enlighten us some more. OG. The JW bit has you frothing doesnt it.

[EternalOptimist]

Its clear that someone used the two words 'grave danger'

at that point , the deputy big dog copper shat his pants.

now some nhs dude has said 'what grave danger ?'

at that point , the deputy big dog copper shat his pants.

[Old Greg]

Ah yes please do enlighten us some more. OG. The JW bit has you frothing doesnt it.

Not at all. Every seriously ill JW child I've known, has ended in an agreement by the parents to consent to transfusion without court intervention, but they are difficult discussions.