America reaps what it sows, says preacher as British jihadists gloat

[woohoo]

You and probably a lot of other ovine conspiracy theorists believe that it was made purely for political reasons. However it was probably simply that the Argentinians thought they could get away with it and the British thought that they wouldn't be so stupid as to try.
What you are saying is that we should avoid any dangerous confrontation as we might not like the outcome and hold our hands up and implore them to sit down over a nice cuppa and have a chat about it. That is what would be seen in other cultures a ******* stupid.

It was unfortunate that a lot of men died. And every single death could have been avoided before hostilities began if they accepted they weren't going to be allowed to get away with it and withdrawn.

You make no sense, you call me a conspiracy theorist then say some nonsense that doesn't make sense, did you read it back before you pressed the submit button.

It's a bit more than unfortunate that nearly a 1000 men died unnecessarily.

[tractor]

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You make no sense, you call me a conspiracy theorist then say some nonsense that doesn't make sense, did you read it back before you pressed the submit button.

It's a bit more than unfortunate that nearly a 1000 men died unnecessarily.

Many on our side died unecessarily not only because they were there but because their officers could not follow orders (Bluff Cove and the events leading up to it), the BBC tipping the Argies off about bomb retardation and the impending attack on Goose Green, the French supplying fresh Exocets and technicians for those and the super etendards that delivered them and lastly, us for supplying them with military equipment in the years leading up to it including ENGLISH Electric Canberras.

[woohoo]

The Falklands is a colony, never part of the Empire. The point in time at which we colonised the Falklands, there was no such thing as argentina, but there were a lot of colonial Spaniards running around killing and pillaging the local indiginous South American Indians.

The Falklands was populated only by sheep left over from an earlier and aborted colonisation that was left when no one wanted it. We went and stayed since. Argentina was formed many years after this.

I guess there are some here that don't remember what it was all about (more than just the Falklands) it was about the right of the people there to choose to be British ....

The guy chosen to strike the first blow was...

So yeah, I guess we should have let him take all 2500 inhabitants up in his plane and throw them out, shouldn't we?

You can try and make it into some kind of fundamental argument that being British was at stake. If the UK gov thought it would be advantageous to negotiate the sovereignty of the island they would do that at a drop of hat. It was talked about doing that before the invasion. Not many had any idea where the island was before the war and had little interest in it.

[alluvial]

You make no sense, you call me a conspiracy theorist then say some nonsense that doesn't make sense, did you read it back before you pressed the submit button.

It's a bit more than unfortunate that nearly a 1000 men died unnecessarily.

You sure you're not assguru? He was just as obtuse.
Shall I try to put it into simple easy to understand steps? Maybe create a Powerpoint for you that paints it in cartoon graphics?

[woohoo]

Many on our side died unecessarily not only because they were there but because their officers could not follow orders (Bluff Cove and the events leading up to it), the BBC tipping the Argies off about bomb retardation and the impending attack on Goose Green, the French supplying fresh Exocets and technicians for those and the super etendards that delivered them and lastly, us for supplying them with military equipment in the years leading up to it including ENGLISH Electric Canberras.

None of that matters if you decide not to send your fleet in the first place. Once you enter into a war things like this happen. War is unpredictable. Without the help from the US and some others we probably would not have won and many more men might have lost their lives.

There was a point where the sensible thing would be to negotiate, but fearing the damage to our reputation we entered into the war. People died. If you think it was for jolly ole Britain then you live in dream world.

[Mich the Tester]

Many on our side died unecessarily not only because they were there but because their officers could not follow orders (Bluff Cove and the events leading up to it), the BBC tipping the Argies off about bomb retardation and the impending attack on Goose Green, the French supplying fresh Exocets and technicians for those and the super etendards that delivered them and lastly, us for supplying them with military equipment in the years leading up to it including ENGLISH Electric Canberras.

In both Britain and Argentina, politicians and diplomats are paid to go and sit around talking about this stuff, and if they can't agree, to go and talk about it for longer, and then having failed to agree, to keep on talking about it.

British and Argentinian politicians fooked up and 1000 very young men, almost kids, died.

I think the world needs one big law to deal with wars; no combattant may be under the age of 50. Maybe then, when the bastards that start wars actually have to fight them and get their goolies blown off and their intestines splattered across the ground by grenades, they'll stop starting wars and do their bloody job of sorting out disagreements in a civilised manner.

[tractor]

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You can try and make it into some kind of fundamental argument that being British was at stake. If the UK gov thought it would be advantageous to negotiate the sovereignty of the island they would do that at a drop of hat. It was talked about doing that before the invasion. Not many had any idea where the island was before the war and had little interest in it.

Rubbish. For me it IS about the rights of the Falkland Islanders to be British.

If you need a crusade, get behind the Chagos Islander. I would be behind you all the way. The British have behaved disgracefully over it and Diego Garcia.

The Falklands was a rock that no one cared about except us. Until that is that Argentina went bankrupt (again) and decided it wanted the fishery rights (prawns dontcha know) and that oil was likely to be there.

Since then they have been all righteous about it.

[woohoo]

You sure you're not assguru? He was just as obtuse.
Shall I try to put it into simple easy to understand steps? Maybe create a Powerpoint for you that paints it in cartoon graphics?

Starting with the insults eh, tired of trying to string a sentence together that may form part of an argument.

[tractor]

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In both Britain and Argentina, politicians and diplomats are paid to go and sit around talking about this stuff, and if they can't agree, to go and talk about it for longer, and then having failed to agree, to keep on talking about it.

British and Argentinian politicians fooked up and 1000 very young men, almost kids, died.

I think the world needs one big law to deal with wars; no combattant may be under the age of 50. Maybe then, when the bastards that start wars actually have to fight them and get their goolies blown off and their intestines splattered across the ground by grenades, they'll stop starting wars and do their bloody job of sorting out disagreements in a civilised manner.

You have to understand that at the time, Argentina was ruled by a military junta. You could no more negotiate or reason with them than you could Adolf himself.

This is to Woohoo who made the same point but I couldn't multi quote because it hadn't been posted yet.

[alluvial]

None of that matters if you decide not to send your fleet in the first place. Once you enter into a war things like this happen. War is unpredictable. Without the help from the US and some others we probably would not have won and many more men might have lost their lives.

There was a point where the sensible thing would be to negotiate, but fearing the damage to our reputation we entered into the war. People died. If you think it was for jolly ole Britain then you live in dream world.

Negotiate? So the Argentinians are sitting on the front lawn of Government House landing more men and weapons and you think they'll be willing to negotiate? The only thing they would be willing to negotiate would be how quickly they could clear the British citizens out and get the name of the islands changed in all the Atlases.