Nobody on here bothered by ISIS?

[Mich the Tester]

Maybe Tony could be sent in to spread a bit of peace and love?

Things can only get better!

[DiscoStu]

Maybe Tony could be sent in to bulk up his bank account some more?

Things can only get better!

FTFY

[MicrosoftBob]

Nuking the site from orbit is a plan, unfortunately the mother ship is already infected.

As Islam is effectively a human virus, after making a colony of atheists on another planet that's not a bad plan....

[SpontaneousOrder]

As Islam is effectively a human virus, after making a colony of atheists on another planet that's not a bad plan....

Statism is the virus. Islam just happens to be the standard under which this zombie marches.

[Mich the Tester]

Statism is the virus. Islam just happens to be the standard under which this zombie marches.

Or, states and religions are types of 'in groups' that humans form. People want to be part of a group; the state is a geographical form of group that includes members who supposedly have something in common, but may actually have almost nothing to do with each other, but it allows exclusion of others, i.e. 'foreigners'. Religion is similar; it brings together people who may actually have no cause to do anything together, but then allows them exclude others, like Sunnis excluding their out groups, the Shi'ites and vice versa, or excluding the Yazidis, believers excluding infidels, and so on and so forth. The state and the religion are two aspects of the same group forming behaviour of humans, and both have their positive and negative aspects. In some ways I find patriotism and nationalism similar to religion and serving the same urges. Although, if pushed, I'd rather spend an afternoon in the company of Alex Salmond than with Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

[MicrosoftBob]

Although, if pushed, I'd rather spend an afternoon in the company of Alex Salmond than with Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

The worst you could fear is he'd drone on about independence, e could be easily placated with a deep fried mars bar
vs
The risk of being beheaded because they're bored and their live feed of Eastenders isn't working

[minestrone]

The worst you could fear is he'd drone on about independence, e could be easily placated with a deep fried mars bar
vs
The risk of being beheaded because they're bored and their live feed of Eastenders isn't working

[EternalOptimist]

Or, states and religions are types of 'in groups' that humans form. People want to be part of a group; the state is a geographical form of group that includes members who supposedly have something in common, but may actually have almost nothing to do with each other, but it allows exclusion of others, i.e. 'foreigners'. Religion is similar; it brings together people who may actually have no cause to do anything together, but then allows them exclude others, like Sunnis excluding their out groups, the Shi'ites and vice versa, or excluding the Yazidis, believers excluding infidels, and so on and so forth. The state and the religion are two aspects of the same group forming behaviour of humans, and both have their positive and negative aspects. In some ways I find patriotism and nationalism similar to religion and serving the same urges. Although, if pushed, I'd rather spend an afternoon in the company of Alex Salmond than with Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

I cant help disagreeing with this. Groups are formed by people with common values. Thats why I get on better with an immigrant developer from bongo bongo land than I do with the local chavs. Some of these blokes can hardly speak any English but I feel that I have known them all my life, whilst the scrounging chavs are pure scum.
Sometimes the values are religious beliefs, but either way , there is only one thing that can be done - make sure we have the biggest baddest military that we can afford. And back them up every way we can. We have to make sure that their thugs are scared of our thugs

[Mich the Tester]

I cant help disagreeing with this. Groups are formed by people with common values. Thats why I get on better with an immigrant developer from bongo bongo land than I do with the local chavs. Some of these blokes can hardly speak any English but I feel that I have known them all my life, whilst the scrounging chavs are pure scum.

I think actually you're agreeing.

[EternalOptimist]

I think actually you're agreeing.

I dont know. 'in groups' and 'out group' indicate a fashion
more like gangs. transient as opposed to core values