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    Trump needs to STFU as well.
    "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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      Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
      If NK only want the nukes for self defence, like many other countries that already have them, China could solve this easily by providing the missiles but retain power of veto over their use.

      NK would know China would allow their use if NK were attacked first and it keeps NK in check from starting a conflict.

      Better than letting NK continue to antagonise its neighbours, which only takes one dodgy missile launch to escalate into a conflict.
      So in what circumstances would China allow North Korea to fire these missiles, other than circumstances in which China would fire their own missiles?

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        Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
        So in what circumstances would China allow North Korea to fire these missiles, other than circumstances in which China would fire their own missiles?
        Dunno, but as a proxy much like the Crimea/Ukraine fringe is for Russia, it's all about China as far a NK and the bigger picture goes.

        Alternatively, NK will soon get the nukes their own way and join the list of countries the USA can no longer threaten, which is where international stability comes from. In a way every nation recognised by the UN should be allowed nukes to ensure the status quo.
        Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.

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          I wonder if NK is all just a big sideshow distraction from other more troubling news or embarrassments they don't want being talked about.

          Like the total defeat of ISIS, stabilization of the situation in Syria and victory for the Assad regime. Maybe they are writing the next chapter for that as we speak - what are Saudi/Israel/US/us planning to do about that and how are Syria/Iran/Russia planning to counter that?

          Read this article over the weekend. Seems to be getting to the root cause:

          When looking at the world today, one gets the impression of living on a sick planet, with sick world leaders in an ailing democracy. It sometimes seems as if the planet has the flu, and no-one seems able to come up with a workable cure. Few will deny the fact that there is a terrifying lack of wisdom in the world. What happened to the profound knowledge of the great thinkers of the past?
          "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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            Originally posted by Jog On View Post
            Interesting take on NK situation here

            You gotta love the lunatic fringe:

            Originally posted by lunatic
            Nobody needs North Korea more than America. Kim Jong Il iis America's best friend. Because of him..we get to stay in Asia..we get to sell Thadd's to S.Korea..we get to sell S.Korea Treasury bonds..we get to protect and keep Japan our ally..we get to keep Korea and Japan away from China.

            Same tactic insists we keep Germany from its natural ally Russia.

            We stick our military nose where it doesn't belong to derail prosperity not on our hegemonic terms. Debt or destruction is what we bring to the table

            America loves you North Korea..not just Dennis Rodman.
            Last edited by zeitghost; 4 September 2017, 18:28.

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              Lackey - Here you are, Mr Kim
              Mr Kim - What's this? A butt plug for a giant arsehole?
              Lackey - Erm....

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                Originally posted by zeitghost View Post
                You gotta love the lunatic fringe:
                Lol, for all of the US' global dominance and military invention, I wonder how many of the average Americans actually benefit:

                - free healthcare & education?
                - world class transport system?
                - good work/life balance and civil protections?
                - a higher standard of living than the average European?
                - a system of democracy that reflects what the general public wants?

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                  Originally posted by Biggles78 View Post
                  Lol, for all of the US' global dominance and military invention, I wonder how many of the average Americans actually benefit:

                  - free healthcare & education?
                  - world class transport system?
                  - good work/life balance and civil protections?
                  - a higher standard of living than the average European?
                  - a system of democracy that reflects what the general public wants?
                  They're not happy about the projected Asian century and want to throw some spanners in the works by looks of things. If they can just turn the region into a smoldering bomb crater with lawless nutters driving around (with US weapons) keeping the place in the dark ages then maybe, just maybe the US empire might not decline and everything will stay 'awesome' for a while longer...

                  The Asian Century is the projected 21st-century dominance of Asian politics and culture, assuming certain demographic and economic trends persist. The concept of Asian Century parallels the characterization of the 20th century as the American Century, and the 19th century as the Britain's Imperial Century.
                  That and billions of arms sales to South Korea and maybe japan should help as well.

                  I think China and Russia can read them like Roger red hat book and are already making serious moves:

                  China Readies Yuan-Priced Crude Oil Benchmark Backed By Gold | OilPrice.com

                  Saddam and Gadhaffi were both killed for trying to bypass the petro$. Russia and China are just doing it.
                  "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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                    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...47095488516098

                    I am allowing Japan & South Korea to buy a substantially increased amount of highly sophisticated military equipment from the United States.
                    Behold the art of the deal - making America great again...
                    "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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                      Israeli air force jets kill two in rare targeting of Syrian chemical facility | The Independent

                      Local media said that the target was possibly a chemical facility. War monitor the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) said the site was a scientific research centre, sanctioned by the US as a "non conventional weapons agency". American officials believe the base is used for the manufacture of chemical weapons - a charge the Syrian government denies.
                      Dead horses still being flogged - how long before Israel gets one of their planes shot down?
                      "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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