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Where to pitch you rate when offered a spread?

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    #11
    I see some have mentioned that bottom end of rate is just agent taking more of cut and that client just offers one rate.

    Not so. Having been involved in getting other contractors on board for a few clients. Cost matters - more than it should to some clients.

    I've seen client look at some contractors who are miles inferior just because they're £50 cheaper. Sometimes it makes all the difference to a client - even when it shouldnt.

    Therefore, depends on how good the rate is and how much I want the gig. If its local and good rate anyway I will do it at the bottom end. If I dont someone else will and they might get in there purely on price.
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      #12
      Originally posted by malvolio View Post
      b) An agent offering a spread is potentially conning you into taking a lower rate to increase his profit: the gig will have been offered to him at a single rate by the client.
      Unless they are on a fixed percentage margin, in which case they have an incentive to get you a better rate.
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        #13
        Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
        I see some have mentioned that bottom end of rate is just agent taking more of cut and that client just offers one rate.

        Not so. Having been involved in getting other contractors on board for a few clients. Cost matters - more than it should to some clients.

        I've seen client look at some contractors who are miles inferior just because they're £50 cheaper. Sometimes it makes all the difference to a client - even when it shouldnt.

        Therefore, depends on how good the rate is and how much I want the gig. If its local and good rate anyway I will do it at the bottom end. If I dont someone else will and they might get in there purely on price.
        But presumably if you turn down the work, they stop your money?
        The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

        George Frederic Watts

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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          #14
          Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
          Unless they are on a fixed percentage margin, in which case they have an incentive to get you a better rate.
          Yes... but if they are competing against other agencies, winning the business is more important than profit.
          The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

          George Frederic Watts

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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            #15
            I find it very annoying when agents tell me all about a role and I say 'perfect yes put me forward'. Then they say 'what is your rate', I say 'what's the top rate the clients paying', they say 'it's negotiable', great I say 'put me forward at 'n'', they say 'the max rate is 'n - n/4'' I say 'you said there wasn't a max rate and it's negotiable', they say 'but we won't get you that' I say 'doesn't sound very negotiable, just put me forward at the most you think you can get'.... I no longer think the role is perfect...

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              #16
              Originally posted by andyc2000 View Post
              I find it very annoying when agents tell me all about a role and I say 'perfect yes put me forward'. Then they say 'what is your rate', I say 'what's the top rate the clients paying', they say 'it's negotiable', great I say 'put me forward at 'n'', they say 'the max rate is 'n - n/4'' I say 'you said there wasn't a max rate and it's negotiable', they say 'but we won't get you that' I say 'doesn't sound very negotiable, just put me forward at the most you think you can get'.... I no longer think the role is perfect...
              Always worth quoting more than they will reasonably pay and then you soon find out what the maximum is.
              The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

              George Frederic Watts

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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                #17
                Originally posted by speling bee View Post
                But presumably if you turn down the work, they stop your money?
                Can we just get over the fact that I claim JSA when the situation dictates please? You really do seem obsessed by it.

                Im sorry if it bothers you but, to be honest, tough titty. As I've said a million times I aint gonna stop just because some random stranger on a forum thinks I should.

                So please lets stick to the thread?
                Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                  Can we just get over the fact that I claim JSA when the situation dictates please? You really do seem obsessed by it.

                  Im sorry if it bothers you but, to be honest, tough titty. As I've said a million times I aint gonna stop just because some random stranger on a forum thinks I should.

                  So please lets stick to the thread?
                  Perhaps you should look up "annualisation of income" to understand why most of us think you're taking the Michael.
                  Blog? What blog...?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
                    Perhaps you should look up "annualisation of income" to understand why most of us think you're taking the Michael.
                    LOL. along with half the people who claim benefits.
                    Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                      #20
                      Reluctantly, go in at the high band.
                      one day at a time

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