Working extra hours / days

[tarbera]

As your PM

To clarify - that is 1 day per week I'd be happy to do an hour or 2 extra without invoicing.

I would not renew you if you did not work the hours required. (helmet on)

[SueEllen]

I would not renew you if you did not work the hours required. (helmet on)

No need for a helmet.

I've seen contractors not renewed for the same reason.

However if permies have to work that long the organisation has problems.

[Bunk]

I would not renew you if you did not work the hours required. (helmet on)

As the PM I'd hold you responsible for mismanaging the project.

[jmo21]

I would not renew you if you did not work the hours required. (helmet on)

Lol.
Are these hours agreed in the contract? Are they paid?

Permies "having" to work stupid hours or career progressions and/or bonus is one of the main reasons I started contracting

[Zero Liability]

It's not a question of control, it's a question of whether there is any chance that you could do the work at any other time.

Since there isn't any way you can control this, then I wouldn't worry about it being an IR35 pointer.

Would this apply to situations e.g. where the client wants operational support between business hours (e.g. if you work in an SME capacity) or where the nature of the work (e.g. customer contact) may necessitate it?

[Bellona]

You really feel an extra 2.5 hours per day above what they're paid for is "reasonable"?

No, I was just saying that it is sometimes how the corporate world justifies asking the extra mile for nothing in permie contracts of employment when the pressure is on

[Bellona]

I noticed Bellona included the standard corporate threat of "Bonuses" and "Reviews" aswell. It always amused me how much my last corporate believed in flexibility - so long as the flexibility meant me working for free, and not them giving an inch.

Exactly - and one of the reasons I left permiedom

[someltd]

I would not renew you if you did not work the hours required. (helmet on)

That makes a mockery of the whole idea of being a contractor and having to accept work offered? If they wanted someone to do weekends as a long term solution then they should surely specifically look someone to work 5days, 2 of which are weekends?

To say you wouldn't renew because your contractor refused to work a 6 or 7 day week on a long term basis says a lot about you.

[kingcook]

Stick to what your contract says, IMO.

If you want to give away your free time, well that's up to you (putting aside the IR35 risk).

You're running a business though, not a charity.

[kingcook]

I would not renew you if you did not work the hours required. (helmet on)

If you're the type of person who expects something for nothing, you're not the type of client i'm looking for.