Same Contract Multiple Projects

[kaiser78]

I will soon have been at current clientco for 3 years in a PM role. I delivered a couple of projects during the first year, but have then been moved from project to project since, without seeing through from start to finish. I seem to be used a project consultant / troubleshooter to get projects stabilised, or I start them and then have to hand over to the permies.

I am slightly concerned when I need to apply for my next role that I won't have demonstrated full end to end delivery more recently. Should I be concerned and are there any suggestions around how I could pitch this ?

[jamesbrown]

I think you answered your own question about how to pitch-it; you've been brought in as a troubleshooter to get flagging projects back on track. I don't see how you could've demonstrated end-to-end delivery in that context.

On a separate issue, are you also slightly worried about the D&C implied by your client shifting you around projects as and when they see fit?

[Old Greg]

I will soon have been at current clientco for 3 years in a PM role. I delivered a couple of projects during the first year, but have then been moved from project to project since, without seeing through from start to finish. I seem to be used a project consultant / troubleshooter to get projects stabilised, or I start them and then have to hand over to the permies.

I am slightly concerned when I need to apply for my next role that I won't have demonstrated full end to end delivery more recently. Should I be concerned and are there any suggestions around how I could pitch this ?

I am often in a similar situation. I tell prospective clients that clients view me as an expensive skilled resource to deploy in phases of projects that are high risk, because they are complex, novel, failing etc. My function is either to get the project in shape so a permie can take it over, or to turn it around and take it completion. I do make sure I can point to some recent end to end projects.

[northernladuk]

I will soon have been at current clientco for 3 years in a PM role. I delivered a couple of projects during the first year, but have then been moved from project to project since, without seeing through from start to finish. I seem to be used a project consultant / troubleshooter to get projects stabilised, or I start them and then have to hand over to the permies.

I am slightly concerned when I need to apply for my next role that I won't have demonstrated full end to end delivery more recently. Should I be concerned and are there any suggestions around how I could pitch this ?

How do you keep yourself outside IR35 for that gig? New schedule every piece of work?

[kaiser78]

How do you keep yourself outside IR35 for that gig? New schedule every piece of work?

Generally yes but as these projects tend to overlap it is not always that clear cut. I also take the stance that I am being used as a PM consultant/specialist doing a role that a permie would arguably not be able to undertake, which is why I am there.

I am however concerned that this length of service at same client co would raise the IR35 alarm bells (think I''ll start a fresh on thread on this one)

[northernladuk]

Generally yes but as these projects tend to overlap it is not always that clear cut. I also take the stance that I am being used as a PM consultant/specialist doing a role that a permie would arguably not be able to undertake, which is why I am there.

I am however concerned that this length of service at same client co would raise the IR35 alarm bells (think I''ll start a fresh on thread on this one)

Replied to your thread. All the clients I have been on move their project staff constantly so am not sure how you think a permie can't do this. You have been there long enough to justify the role is enduring.