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Adding stuff to your CV - hmmmm

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    #11
    Originally posted by DieScum View Post
    Yeah, when I'm trying for roles outside my main skill set I'll blag some minor stuff to get past the agents/HR people.

    It's a fine line but it's better to get your foot in the door and prove yourself than be excluded on the basis of some minor point.

    I can pick up pretty much anything loosely related to my skill set quickly and that's usually what they actually need.
    I am the same, also so many pimps lazily select peoples CV's based on a standard keyword search.

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      #12
      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
      Both good points but when you are trying to assess someone's skills in a short space of time would you not pick the guy that can rattle the most correct answers off there and then rather than said he would have to go google it or ask a mate? Not easy for a client to spot a blagger in such a short amount of time. It certainly has it's flaws don't get me wrong but if you ask a guy 3 questions and he doesn't know and you ask the next guy and he rattles them off what are you going to think.
      But I do sometimes think that clients are too focused on the guy that can rattle them off and would hire them even if they were completely useless otherwise. Thats my point, there is too much emphasis on this.
      Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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        #13
        Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
        But I do sometimes think that clients are too focused on the guy that can rattle them off and would hire them even if they were completely useless otherwise. Thats my point, there is too much emphasis on this.
        That's true. Knowing it parrot fashion and being able to deliver it to meet needs are very different.
        'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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          #14
          I'm interviewing people for roles at the moment. Past experience tells me to ask a lot of open challenging questions, its quite shocking how much lack of knowledge or skill people have and are seriously over egging it on their CVs. Im even beginning to wonder if their are groups of people or agents writing CVs to fit the job rather than their individual skills/experience.

          Either that or they cant articulate themselves in interviews.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Barley View Post
            I'm interviewing people for roles at the moment. Past experience tells me to ask a lot of open challenging questions, its quite shocking how much lack of knowledge or skill people have and are seriously over egging it on their CVs. Im even beginning to wonder if their are groups of people or agents writing CVs to fit the job rather than their individual skills/experience.

            Either that or they cant articulate themselves in interviews.
            I tend not to remove old skills from my CV.
            Is it possible that some people did do something at some point, but just can't remember the specifics now?
            Is it wrong to declare those skills still, or should they be prefixed with some sort of caveat?
            Is there an amount of elapsed time when a skill should be marked as old?
            Don't believe it, until you see it!

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              #16
              Originally posted by darrylmg View Post
              I tend not to remove old skills from my CV.
              Is it possible that some people did do something at some point, but just can't remember the specifics now?
              Is it wrong to declare those skills still, or should they be prefixed with some sort of caveat?
              Is there an amount of elapsed time when a skill should be marked as old?
              No.

              We only remove old skills if we don't want to work in them any more.

              I used to program in CICS/COBOL but haven't had that on my CV for 10 years as I know that idiot agents would still be calling me for anything with these keywords in them.
              "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
              - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                #17
                Originally posted by cojak View Post
                No.

                We only remove old skills if we don't want to work in them any more.

                I used to program in CICS/COBOL but haven't had that on my CV for 10 years as I know that idiot agents would still be calling me for anything with these keywords in them.
                Not much chance of that unless you hail from the Indian subcontinent.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by alluvial View Post
                  Not much chance of that unless you hail from the Indian subcontinent.
                  Alright then, I've also quietly dropped anything relating to training as well (even my company name...).
                  "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
                  - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                    #19
                    You can qualify skills on your CV.
                    The skills you want to push, and get roles in, should be obvious core skills, "commercial grade".

                    Other, peripheral skills, could be marked as "intermediate, non-commercial standard", or words to that effect. That is, skills you have awareness or knowledge of, but haven't used in a commercial environment, ie, through study, coursework, etc.

                    EDIT: to put it more succinctly, list your primary core skills, and anything else, as secondary, peripheral skills.
                    Last edited by evilagent; 10 November 2013, 15:02.

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                      #20
                      Most CV’s are full of lies. Certainly linkedin profiles of many people I know falsely represent their roles in various jobs where I have first hand experience of what they really did, and am able to compare with their linkedin version. Indeed in permie land many jump many layers of hierarchy with these tricks. I am probably far too honest and modest.

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