Out of pocket for hotel due to clients uselessness

[Old Greg]

By that rationale, contractors should only book hotels as they're leaving the office in case client decides they want them to work.

Flexibility is a two way thing. If clients want it then they've got to at least be fair. Telling me 3 weeks ago I had to work nights - is me being flexible for them. Them changing they're mind 1 day before when ive made the necessary arrangements to accomodate them is unprofessional.

You are in business so you take risks and price it into the contract. I decide whether to book accommodation one month, week or day ahead balancing the price against the risk (my risk) of cancellation.

And I don't whine about fairness. Why is it fair for them to pay for your risk?

[psychocandy]

You are in business so you take risks and price it into the contract. I decide whether to book accommodation one month, week or day ahead balancing the price against the risk (my risk) of cancellation.

And I don't whine about fairness. Why is it fair for them to pay for your risk?

But how far do you take that? Sometimes its all about treating people fairly and not the black and white of the contract.

[Old Greg]

But how far do you take that? Sometimes its all about treating people fairly and not the black and white of the contract.

But if you have priced this into the contract, then you are being treated fairly because it is your risk. It wouldn't be fair to expect you to benefit financially from taking the risk but for the client to take the downside.

[psychocandy]

But if you have priced this into the contract, then you are being treated fairly because it is your risk. It wouldn't be fair to expect you to benefit financially from taking the risk but for the client to take the downside.

I agree. If I'd signed a contract saying I'd do shifts and they were subject to change without notice then it is my risk of course.

My BIG mistake was not getting it in the contract. Even though shifts were discussed at interview, they were never entered into the contract. So I couldn't factor in this risk/cost at the time - I just relied on the client to be fair.

Like I said, its all being done as a 'gentlemans agreement'. They offered x times if we'd do shifts, told us the shift rota would be done in advance etc. There was no mention of it changing at last minute and expecting us to do it.

Last time I take someone word thats for sure.... However, first to admit I've learned a valuable lesson here!

[Sausage Surprise]

I once signed a 6 month rental agreement on a flat near Bristol Airport based on a 6 month NHS contract. I was given notice after 3 weeks.

I learned a lot from that experience.

[psychocandy]

I once signed a 6 month rental agreement on a flat near Bristol Airport based on a 6 month NHS contract. I was given notice after 3 weeks.

I learned a lot from that experience.

But then, I assume contractually client was allowed to do that? My mistake here is not a contractual issue its my fault for taking their word.

Luckily, even though a bit annoying, not as expensive a mistake as 6 month flat rental.

Hoping I can talk nicely to flat owner to change the dates a little so I can use for nighttime rather than planned daytime.

[Sausage Surprise]

But then, I assume contractually client was allowed to do that? My mistake here is not a contractual issue its my fault for taking their word.

Luckily, even though a bit annoying, not as expensive a mistake as 6 month flat rental.

Hoping I can talk nicely to flat owner to change the dates a little so I can use for nighttime rather than planned daytime.

Of course they were. It was my mistake to assume the 6 month contract would last 6 months cos that's what the agent told me
I was a bit naive then.

[Old Greg]

I agree. If I'd signed a contract saying I'd do shifts and they were subject to change without notice then it is my risk of course.

My BIG mistake was not getting it in the contract. Even though shifts were discussed at interview, they were never entered into the contract. So I couldn't factor in this risk/cost at the time - I just relied on the client to be fair.

Like I said, its all being done as a 'gentlemans agreement'. They offered x times if we'd do shifts, told us the shift rota would be done in advance etc. There was no mention of it changing at last minute and expecting us to do it.

Last time I take someone word thats for sure.... However, first to admit I've learned a valuable lesson here!

So, due to whose uselessness are you out of pocket?

[kevpuk]

I am often useless, and equally often find myself out of pocket

[psychocandy]

So, due to whose uselessness are you out of pocket?

LOL. Maybe partly my uselessness :-)

Definitely my fault for taking someones word.