Walking away from an extension offer

[No2politics]

I had to laugh! The agency does not actually work for you so you cannot 'sack' it. You walk away from the offered contract.

That is sensible if the deal does not suit you......nothing to do with being ruthless.

As another poster said how do you explain your unprofessional attitude (not turning up to fulfil your contract) to the client? You are not running rings round the agent. You are just being petulant and will need some restorative surgery to the centre of your face in due course.

I laughed as well!

Running rings round the agent- You crafty devil you!!!

[masonryan]

I laughed as well!

Running rings round the agent- You crafty devil you!!!

I sure have. I've caught the agent lying on three separate counts. Today she lied again. She told me yesterday she would call back 4pm today after giving me 24 hours to take or leave the offer. Last night I emailed her saying my rate is £x and the offer does not show £x. At 4pm I told her I'll do the work but for my £x rate. She told me, I'm not telling them that, I'm telling them you are refusing their final offer and don't want to work there anymore. I told her no, I do want to work there but my price is £x, you tell them that please because that's the truth? She said "I'm not going to tell them the truth". I said, "oh yes you are, you don't lie in my name or omit details, distort, spin, just tell them the truth!". She said OK then I'll just say you want more money. I said no, you will tell them I will gladly take the contract but at the revised rate of £x. Anything other than the truth, the whole truth and nothing from the truth from her to end-client I will consider as a lie.

And guess what, after I phoned her boss up to complain that she was telling me she was not going to tell the end-client the truth, her boss called me back after investigating and said he'd found an email that morning of her telling the client I was rejecting their offer as I wanted a rate of £x to do this work. So her 4pm deadline was nonsense as she had already told the client I was rejecting their rate. The end-client had not come back to her on that yet. Her call to me was in the afternoon claiming it was a final offer and that if I turned it down I wouldn't be back at end-client at all and no further negotiation would take place. That call was all lies, I called her bluff, and I'm a MAN with a big fat cheesy grin on my face this evening.

[masonryan]

I had to laugh! The agency does not actually work for you so you cannot 'sack' it. You walk away from the offered contract.

Yes I did sack them, as the original one said "we can only ask the question" about a rate rise. If end-client says "no" then they stop there, they said. They said they were just 'managing' the contract and were not making much money from it so it wasn't worth their time negotiating it. So I said, that's not good enough and end-client said I could use another agency and that the agents are meant to represent my interests, negotiation of terms is part of that and they had no business refusing to do this. The new agent assured me they would negotiate not just transmit the client's offer to me. But in reality, this agent is doing nothing but represent the end-client's interest to me, trying to bully me to accept it fuelled with lies about 'final offers', deadlines and ultimatums to get me to back down. They failed. I'm a MAN.

[masonryan]

I laughed as well!

Running rings round the agent- You crafty devil you!!!

I did, as every time she said "that can't be changed" with some bs "standard contracts" as "that's what all the other contractors there have can't change it just for one person blah blah blah blah but" actually she ended up magically changing it when I demanded it changed. So I consider that a lie. And I enjoyed reminding her of these lies.

What she should have said was "I'll put that to the client to see if it can be changed" not say "it's impossible for that to change" when it absolutely was.

[cojak]

I sure have. I've caught the agent lying on three separate counts. Today she lied again. She told me yesterday she would call back 4pm today after giving me 24 hours to take or leave the offer. Last night I emailed her saying my rate is £x and the offer does not show £x. At 4pm I told her I'll do the work but for my £x rate. She told me, I'm not telling them that, I'm telling them you are refusing their final offer and don't want to work there anymore. I told her no, I do want to work there but my price is £x, you tell them that please because that's the truth? She said "I'm not going to tell them the truth". I said, "oh yes you are, you don't lie in my name or omit details, distort, spin, just tell them the truth!". She said OK then I'll just say you want more money. I said no, you will tell them I will gladly take the contract but at the revised rate of £x. Anything other than the truth, the whole truth and nothing from the truth from her to end-client I will consider as a lie.

And guess what, after I phoned her boss up to complain that she was telling me she was not going to tell the end-client the truth, her boss called me back after investigating and said he'd found an email that morning of her telling the client I was rejecting their offer as I wanted a rate of £x to do this work. So her 4pm deadline was nonsense as she had already told the client I was rejecting their rate. The end-client had not come back to her on that yet. Her call to me was in the afternoon claiming it was a final offer and that if I turned it down I wouldn't be back at end-client at all and no further negotiation would take place. That call was all lies, I called her bluff, and I'm a MAN with a big fat cheesy grin on my face this evening.

Good for you fella.

And on the basis that this thread is moving out of useful information and into General territory, I'm locking it.