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Request to work 12 hour shifts out of hours etc

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    #11
    So tell them what you're prepared to do and for what remuneration, or refuse to do it.

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      #12
      Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
      So tell them what you're prepared to do and for what remuneration, or refuse to do it.
      WSS
      Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
      I can't see any way to do it can you please advise?

      I want my account deleted and all of my information removed, I want to invoke my right to be forgotten.

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        #13
        Originally posted by socialworker View Post
        Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
        A) Who gives a fck
        B) General is for you insignificant whinging
        C) If that cap fits wear it
        D) Read what you just put and try work out why NLUK (and all the others) are having a go at you
        E) Do yourself a favour and just delete your account for a couple of months.
        Would that not be "your insignificant whinging" ?
        Mmmm....
        "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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          #14
          Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
          So tell them what you're prepared to do and for what remuneration, or refuse to do it.
          I'd second this. But think you'd have a weak case having already accepted a daily rate and as you indicate you're already on site.

          Here's a link for you if you do end up doing out of hours.

          Takeaway delivery menus - hungryhouse

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            #15
            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
            A) Who gives a fck
            B) General is for you insignificant whinging
            C) If that cap fits wear it
            D) Read what you just put and try work out why NLUK (and all the others) are having a go at you
            E) Do yourself a favour and just delete your account for a couple of months.
            How rude...
            Contracting: more of the money, less of the sh1t

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              #16
              Personally I hate it when the client expects you to work unreasonable hours. What I hate even more is when the other contractors on the team think it is fine to give away time for free and so by extension expect you to do it too, luckily, I've rarely been in this situation.
              So, your options are:
              a) Ignore them and stick to the hours specified in the contract whilst ensuring that you're delivering what you've been contracted to do. Usually with the attitude that you would have done longer hours normally but if they are going to make a big thing of it, then feck 'em.
              b) Work on client stuff for contracted hours but then faff around for the rest of the time photocopying, playing with spreadsheets to work out your plan B, post drivel in General, learn to sleep with your eyes open whilst staring at a document on screen.
              c) Roll over and take it like a permie and do ridiculous hours just because it's expected of you.

              I personally think that stupid hours are rarely justified and when you've got an hour and a half commute either side of a working day, downright wrong.

              Me, I usually go for (a) with a bit of (b).

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                #17
                http://forums.contractoruk.com/busin...al-forums.html

                I guess some people are just immune to this, eh, or can we all just start fighting and dropping vowels when we want to swear at people? I don't think it matters if it's a regular posting or a newbie, it's the impression it gives to anyone thinking of posting (which, generally, seems to be "don't" unless you want the attack dogs on you for anything they don't personally like).

                Originally posted by SueEllen
                The client must have made it clear what the contract hours are or didn't you ask before you started?
                Originally posted by psychocandy
                Was mentioned at the interview that client may have plans to do this and I did mention to the agency at the time that standard day rate wouldn't be appropriate for this.
                I guess reading a thread before replying is hard, but it appears that this was discussed up front, and a warning given that the rate would not be right.
                I'd say that it depends on what you agreed to in your contract. Does it say anything about working times at all?
                I suppose the problem is not so much whether you have a leg to stand on if you want to say "no", so much as the fact that the other contractors have all rolled over and you don't want to stand out by rejecting this. If you're set on not doing the hours you could say something to the client about how family circumstances won't allow you to do this, and that you did discuss it with the agent before signing ("didn't they say anything to you?"), but if you have any sort of decent relationship with the agent then this could cause trouble.
                Or if you're willing to do the hours, but just want more money, you'd have to be straight with the client - although since you're engaged by the agency, and had the discussion with them, you might want to take it to them.
                Either way, unfortunately, i can't see it ending particularly well.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                  Everytime you come on here you moan about a contract or client.

                  The client must have made it clear what the contract hours are or didn't you ask before you started?

                  If you didn't ask then it your tough tulip but don't come here moaning.

                  Also when I was permie it was common for me to start a job without a computer or anything to do. In that case I either talked to a lot of people, made everyone tea or tried to find out what other people were working on. This has extended somewhat to being a contractor even though I'm paid lots more however I don't complain.
                  Not moaning. But I'm aware that every client is different and these issues can come up. I just like to know the opinions of people who may have much more experience and have maybe seen this sort of thing before.

                  The contract is PWD Mon-Fri with weekends subject to local agreement. At the interview, the client did say they might think about 24/7 coverage in the next few weeks.

                  I then had a conversation with the agency that if this were to happen we'd have to discuss things re: payments etc. and how this would all work.
                  Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                    Not moaning. But I'm aware that every client is different and these issues can come up. I just like to know the opinions of people who may have much more experience and have maybe seen this sort of thing before.

                    The contract is PWD Mon-Fri with weekends subject to local agreement. At the interview, the client did say they might think about 24/7 coverage in the next few weeks.

                    I then had a conversation with the agency that if this were to happen we'd have to discuss things re: payments etc. and how this would all work.
                    Clearly the conversation didn't sink in. Just say you have no interest in accepting the work outside normal 9-5 as agreed at the negotiation stage. If they want to raise a change then your new figure for the work will have an uplift of X to compensate for the ruined pattern of your life to handle their requirements... Then stick your CV back on Jobserve and expect to jump...

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by psychocandy View Post

                      I then had a conversation with the agency that if this were to happen we'd have to discuss things re: payments etc. and how this would all work.
                      You forgot the one golden rule - Agencies don't give a f*** unless it will cause them income problems.
                      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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