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    #41
    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    take 6 weeks minimum holiday per year. I also try to work 2 to 4 day per week for 10 to 20 weeks per year.
    The other contrary I suppose is to consider the length of the contract, especially in this low confidence economy.

    I know I asked before on this list, ages ago, do you take a one week or two weeks break in a contract that is only three months long? I would think not, but if it you have been told, by client and agency, that the contract is going to be six months long, then yes I would. If you got a 9 month contract, then the answer is yes. If you have a one year contract, the answer is equivocally yes and absolutely. It always depends on the individual and the situation. For example, you might be working all the contract to save enough money to do a world-wide trek for several months around the world after the contract. Maybe you are saving the deposit to move the next dream house, then take three months on DIY. The only person who knows is you.

    One thing that I always do with time off, is let the project manager and client know well in advance, ideally, at least one month will do, so they can plan around my absence. Also, I avoid holidays or training courses, when everyone knows in the team that stuff is going live ( and this gets us back around to the well-in-advance thing again.)

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      #42
      Originally posted by MyUserName View Post
      I take days off when I am nagged into it and when I want to.
      WMUNS. :-D
      Never has a man been heard to say on his death bed that he wishes he'd spent more time in the office.

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        #43
        I take around 25 days off during the year on the basis that I earn enough to be able to do so. Family time > reward than bank balance.
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          #44
          its all about the work life balance so time off as and when I want it. Most of the time its during school holidays so we can go out and spend some of this money. As I see it you could drop dead tomorrow and your kids arent going to have a great memory of you if all you ever did was work.

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            #45
            Originally posted by jimjamuk View Post
            its all about the work life balance so time off as and when I want it. Most of the time its during school holidays so we can go out and spend some of this money. As I see it you could drop dead tomorrow and your kids arent going to have a great memory of you if all you ever did was work.
            Taking time off during contracts is a complete anathema to me. Citing contracting and work \ life balance just doesnt compute. As for taking time off during the school holidays, do you seriously expect clients to be happy spending all the money on a resource that wants time off when the kids are out of school?

            Sure, time off between contracts, no probs, contractors asking \ taking time out of a contract though? No way, that's permietractor territory and yet another example of diluting the mix.

            The time to take 'time off' is between contracts. Client's dont want contractors to act like permies. Permies take time off when they want (within reason). A client's idea of a contractor is that you arent going to ask for 'a day off' or a couple of weeks off when you're working on a project. Guess what? They can get a permie to do that and far cheaper.

            So you keep taking the extensions and there's no time to squeeze in a week or two off? Hell, didnt you realise that comes with the territory of being a contractor?
            I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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              #46
              Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
              Taking time off during contracts is a complete anathema to me. Citing contracting and work \ life balance just doesnt compute. As for taking time off during the school holidays, do you seriously expect clients to be happy spending all the money on a resource that wants time off when the kids are out of school?

              Sure, time off between contracts, no probs, contractors asking \ taking time out of a contract though? No way, that's permietractor territory and yet another example of diluting the mix.

              The time to take 'time off' is between contracts. Client's dont want contractors to act like permies. Permies take time off when they want (within reason). A client's idea of a contractor is that you arent going to ask for 'a day off' or a couple of weeks off when you're working on a project. Guess what? They can get a permie to do that and far cheaper.

              So you keep taking the extensions and there's no time to squeeze in a week or two off? Hell, didnt you realise that comes with the territory of being a contractor?
              I doubt not taking holidays mid project is anywhere near top of the list of reasons when deciding to take a contractor over a permie. If a project is in trouble if one person takes off a week then its badly managed.

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                #47
                Originally posted by proggy View Post
                I doubt not taking holidays mid project is anywhere near top of the list of reasons when deciding to take a contractor over a permie. If a project is in trouble if one person takes off a week then its badly managed.
                Really!? Im frequently asked 'do you have any holidays booked or intend taking any holidays in the next 3 months \ contract period?' Point is, if a PM or whoever let's one contractor take time off, the rest will follow often as not.

                My response is always I dont take time off during contracts except for unforeseen circumstances or doctor \ dental appointments which I try and arrange for Monday morning or Friday afternoon.

                I fully understand the work \ life balance. That's one of the reasons I turned contractor. But, I dont expect to take days or weeks off in a contract to achieve that work \ life balance. From a contractor perspective, it doesnt sit right to me.
                I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
                  Really!? Im frequently asked 'do you have any holidays booked or intend taking any holidays in the next 3 months \ contract period?' Point is, if a PM or whoever let's one contractor take time off, the rest will follow often as not.

                  My response is always I dont take time off during contracts except for unforeseen circumstances or doctor \ dental appointments which I try and arrange for Monday morning or Friday afternoon.

                  I fully understand the work \ life balance. That's one of the reasons I turned contractor. But, I dont expect to take days or weeks off in a contract to achieve that work \ life balance. From a contractor perspective, it doesnt sit right to me.
                  Nah. Don't agree. Most clients aren't bothered if you take holidays in my experience as long as you dont drop them right in it.

                  In fact, my current one gets wassed off you don't take holidays. I wanted to work between xmas and new year (and it was mega busy) they wanted to save money so asked me to take the time off.
                  Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                    #49
                    Also, BB. Mrs is about to drop junior Candy no2 in the next few weeks.

                    A bit early and its looking like right in the middle of a major rollout. What do you suggest? Ask the Mrs to suck it up a bit longer so as to not inconvenience the client?

                    Maybe I should have considered the project plan at the conception stage and planned appropriately LOL.

                    Sorry mr client but thats the deal. Sorry its inconvenient and all but I will be having a week off.
                    Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
                      Nah. Don't agree. Most clients aren't bothered if you take holidays in my experience as long as you dont drop them right in it.

                      In fact, my current one gets wassed off you don't take holidays. I wanted to work between xmas and new year (and it was mega busy) they wanted to save money so asked me to take the time off.
                      agree with PsychoCandy, every client I've had have never had a problem so long as you let them know in advance.

                      And I disagree about it being a pointer to some kind permie-tractor IR35 status.

                      Unless the contract is very short ( < 1 month ) it should never be a problem.

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