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    #11
    Originally posted by Moscow Mule View Post
    Let me highlight the pertinent words...
    Indeed but seems HR doesn't give contractor generic references, nor knows about our conduct the only person that would be able to give a negative view on the contractors conduct would be someone very close to him, so close he would be identifiable.
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      #12
      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
      Indeed but seems HR doesn't give contractor generic references, nor knows about our conduct the only person that would be able to give a negative view on the contractors conduct would be someone very close to him, so close he would be identifiable.
      That's as maybe, but it's worth asking - it costs nothing.

      An SAR is the place to start, if you get nowhere, then you have to decide whether you want to keep playing (paying) or move on.
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        #13
        I might also add that few companies have a proper data controller who actually knows the rules, so you might also find that the request just gets answered by some HR numpty.
        ‎"See, you think I give a tulip. Wrong. In fact, while you talk, I'm thinking; How can I give less of a tulip? That's why I look interested."

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          #14
          If I was the OP I would just make some polite enquiries first. If he knows the person or someone connected they may be honest enough to tell him what the problem is. I would like to think if anyone was to give me negative feedback they wouldn't have a problem telling me to my face.
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            #15
            Reference Issue

            Originally posted by thelurker View Post
            Got a new role but one employer has given me a **negative** reference from new employer.

            Are you able to (legally) request to see reference provided?

            Any ways round this in future for other roles? Organisation was quite small so difficult to get a reference from someone else, as I was under the impression (wrongly?) that an employer couldn't give negative references?

            Thanks
            Has it hindered your new role? If not then why sweat it?
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              #16
              Originally posted by Moscow Mule View Post
              I might also add that few companies have a proper data controller who actually knows the rules, so you might also find that the request just gets answered by some HR numpty.
              If the reference says something like "Confidential and Personal" on it, then they are more likely to read the rules and realise that they don't need to disclose it.

              I'd question how the OP knows which reference it was that was "bad" - it may well be that just because it wasn't a glowing report, the new client isn't interested. I'd chalk it up to experience, move on, and not get a reference from there in the future!
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                #17
                It is hindering a new role and was told from the other company where reference came from..

                This new role has more responsibility, so I sort of "step up" from my previous.

                Thus a bigger concern for me, is if I go for other roles and I get similar reference again it will cause problems......?

                Thanks

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by thelurker View Post
                  Thus a bigger concern for me, is if I go for other roles and I get similar reference again it will cause problems......?
                  Don't ask them for a reference again.
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
                    Don't ask them for a reference again.
                    Was there over a year so how can avoid not providing the information.

                    It is common requirement for public sector jobs that last 3 years info is required.

                    Really need to get into the IB world

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by thelurker View Post
                      Was there over a year so how can avoid not providing the information.

                      It is common requirement for public sector jobs that last 3 years info is required.

                      Really need to get into the IB world
                      If you were there for over a year, then what happened that they gave you a bad reference? Surely time in contract is a good indicator that they were happy with you and your work.

                      Are you sure that the reference was bad, or is it just that the new client was expecting more from the reference? If you are looking for a step up, then the new client may be looking for more in the reference than a standard "he was OK" line which is fairly neutral.

                      It could also be that the new client has found someone else and they just want to let you down by having you annoyed with someone else than with them.

                      Of course, in the future, you could always try the "it's against their company policy to give out references - I've tried in the past and their HR department just won't budge. Plus, I'm tied by an NDA so I can't reveal their name, but I can discuss in non-specific terms what I did for them. When would you like me to start?" line
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