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    Contract termination period

    I have a contract that states under Notice to Terminate '4 weeks (save where an engagement can be terminated without notice in accordance with the terms of the Agreement)
    The Client has cancelled the project and the agency has given me 2 weeks notice. In a telephone call the agent said this is because they, the Agency, have an agreement with the client that if the duration of the contract has run for less than 6 months, they are only given 2 weeks.
    In the T&C it states
    The Consultancy acknowledges that the continuation of the Assignment is subject to and conditioned by the continuation of the contract entered into between the Employemnt Business and the Client. In the event that the contract between the Employment Business and the Client is terminated for any reason the Assignment shall cease with immediate effect without liability to the Consultancy.

    This seems to be totally unfair to me - I have no idea what the agreement between the agency and client is and was expecting the 4 week notice period as stated in my contract

    #2
    Originally posted by Anne Cook View Post
    I have a contract that states under Notice to Terminate '4 weeks (save where an engagement can be terminated without notice in accordance with the terms of the Agreement)
    The Client has cancelled the project and the agency has given me 2 weeks notice. In a telephone call the agent said this is because they, the Agency, have an agreement with the client that if the duration of the contract has run for less than 6 months, they are only given 2 weeks.
    In the T&C it states
    The Consultancy acknowledges that the continuation of the Assignment is subject to and conditioned by the continuation of the contract entered into between the Employemnt Business and the Client. In the event that the contract between the Employment Business and the Client is terminated for any reason the Assignment shall cease with immediate effect without liability to the Consultancy.

    This seems to be totally unfair to me - I have no idea what the agreement between the agency and client is and was expecting the 4 week notice period as stated in my contract
    I take it you've just made the switch from cosy permiedom to the lucrative, highly paid world of contracting?

    If you think it's unfair, you need to understand contracting isnt for you. This is nothing to what you will come across if you stay in contracting.

    What is 'fair' belongs in the permie world.
    I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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      #3
      Originally posted by Anne Cook View Post

      This seems to be totally unfair to me - I have no idea what the agreement between the agency and client is and was expecting the 4 week notice period as stated in my contract
      You have two choices:
      1. Spend some money and time hiring a solicitor and chasing the agency for 2 weeks money, OR,
      2. Have a good Christmas and in the New Year put all your energy into securing another contract.
      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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        #4
        You have 4 weeks. 2 weeks of it you are working and get paid. The other two weeks the client isn't offering work so you don't get paid. Simple.

        Notice period is a waste of time in contracting. You could have a year notice period if you want but if there isn't any work to do you won't get paid.

        Honouring notice periods is for permies.
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          #5
          Originally posted by Anne Cook View Post
          This seems to be totally unfair to me - I have no idea what the agreement between the agency and client is and was expecting the 4 week notice period as stated in my contract
          The contract sounds pretty clear about what happens if the client terminates early. I wouldn't put it past the agency to hold the client to the 4 weeks notice and quietly pocket the money while giving you a line of bulltulip saying that the client terminated early though.

          You could speak to the client to make sure that they have in fact terminated the contract with the agency and their understanding is that you would only be paid for 2 weeks.

          Definitely do not make a big fuss about it if that's what they have decided to do, politely accept it and move on. When you work as a contractor it's a business to business contract rather than one of employment. Make sure you leave your contact details with the client or get Linked-in because you may have future opportunities with them.

          I know the contract agreements are long, but you do need to read them and understand all the terms. In particular the ones that get people are stupid agency tricks around payment terms, restrictive covenants and notice periods (which as you have found, are generally meaningless due to the fine print).

          This is why contractors are paid double what a permie would get in the same job...
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            #6
            yep. its unfair. who told you life was fair?

            be grateful you get 2 weeks when you could have got nothing.

            best of luck job hunting.

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              #7
              Need to see client:agency contract

              Originally posted by Anne Cook View Post
              This seems to be totally unfair to me - I have no idea what the agreement between the agency and client is and was expecting the 4 week notice period as stated in my contract
              In my last contract I asked to see a copy of the agency: client contract as I also had a clause in My Co's agreement with the agency saying that the agency:client contract would take precedent. As it happened there was nothing in there that contradicted my arrangement, but if they hadn't shown it to me then B&C were going to recommend a clause in the MyCo / Agency agreement to cover off the risk.

              Personally I don't think notice periods are worth the paper they're written on. Most of the time you get mutual agreement as to when the end of the project is likely to be and the rest of the time its just a case of 'we don't need you any more'.

              I'd take the 2 weeks money and make sure you check the agency / client contract next time.

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                #8
                Would the posters who see this as par for the course be OK if a contractor just walked out on a contract regardless of notice period stated in the contract? I doubt it and I think clients wouldn't be happy to be left twisting in the wind either.

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                  #9
                  Assuming you aren't on a T&M basis, if your contract states 4 weeks then that's what it is. The stuff about there being no work so you dont get paid is incorrect. That would be the case if you were a temp working for an agency, but I assume you are set up as a business? If so, you have a legal obligation to do the best for your shareholders, even if that's just you.

                  No work means the contract is terminated as per contract. Not that you get kicked off site and that's it. The length of termination period is of more interest. 4 weeks is heading towards perm territory, although not seen as an IR35 no no. No notice may look best for IR35 but is not good for business.

                  Have you got debt recovery insurance? If so then speak to them. If not then the best might be to take the 2 weeks and put it down to experience.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by GB9 View Post
                    Assuming you aren't on a T&M basis,
                    That is a hell of an assumption bearing in mind 99% of us are on T&M no?
                    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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