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    #21
    The most respected recruiter in London

    Pleas explain the phrase "respected recruiter", I can't seem to find it in my memory banks.
    Job motivation: how the powerful steal from the stupid.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Ignis Fatuus View Post
      Pleas explain the phrase "respected recruiter", I can't seem to find it in my memory banks.
      Speaking gibberish on internet talkboards since last Michaelmas. Plus here on Twitter

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        #23
        Originally posted by Ignis Fatuus View Post
        Pleas explain the phrase "respected recruiter", I can't seem to find it in my memory banks.
        People are people in every industry.
        Originally posted by MaryPoppins
        I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
        Originally posted by vetran
        Urine is quite nourishing

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          #24
          Originally posted by MaryPoppins View Post
          You lost me here. You can't blame the client really, can you?
          The point was that you can't trust agents an inch. They can submit your CV even when you say no.

          In retrospect I shouldn't have bothered to attend. It was a bad call. But to be fair the interviewer also shouldn't have called me to have a go when I declined. I am clearly under no obligation to accept the role.

          I *suspect* the agent made out I was really, really keen which is why the client was so shocked I said no. Either way they should have just left it in my opinion.

          Anyway that won't happen again.

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            #25
            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
            That would go under the title 'Why contractors are twats' wouldn't it?
            Actually, I think the majority of your posts would fall far more neatly into that category.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Lewis View Post
              The point was that you can't trust agents an inch. They can submit your CV even when you say no.

              In retrospect I shouldn't have bothered to attend. It was a bad call. But to be fair the interviewer also shouldn't have called me to have a go when I declined. I am clearly under no obligation to accept the role.

              I *suspect* the agent made out I was really, really keen which is why the client was so shocked I said no. Either way they should have just left it in my opinion.

              Anyway that won't happen again.
              Well, I guess you've learned that lesson now. You should never be afraid of cancelling interviews if it becomes apparent for any reason that it would only be wasting your and their time for you to attend. This is particularly so if you didn't ask for the interview in the first place.

              It never pays to play along with a recruiter that has failed to listen when you have clearly said "no thankyou". Chances are everything else they had to say about the job came through that same "say anything to get them into the interview room" filter that some agents unfortunately seem to have hard-wired into their brain.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Gentile View Post
                Well, I guess you've learned that lesson now. You should never be afraid of cancelling interviews if it becomes apparent for any reason that it would only be wasting your and their time for you to attend. This is particularly so if you didn't ask for the interview in the first place.

                It never pays to play along with a recruiter that has failed to listen when you have clearly said "no thankyou". Chances are everything else they had to say about the job came through that same "say anything to get them into the interview room" filter that some agents unfortunately seem to have hard-wired into their brain.
                Yep, all true, I should add that this was not recently by the way. I've been contracting for over 15 years and this happened in the early days. I was just sharing an example of agent dodgyness.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                  That would go under the title 'Why contractors are twats' wouldn't it?
                  I think contractors complaining about agents is a bit of a glass houses situation... if you take CUK as a cross section then contractors are money-grubbing swine who don't give two hoots about their clients as long as they can squeeze cash out of them. Which is exactly how we describe agents.
                  Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                  I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                  Originally posted by vetran
                  Urine is quite nourishing

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                    #29
                    A neccessary evil in the Contractor, at the end of the day I stopped worrying about agents years ago. I really don't care, I see them as nothing more than an avenue to get a gig. Think of them as your own persoanl telemarketing service. You haggle rates, as you will with any other business venture. So they get a little money!

                    Spread the love people we need agents! maybe not as many as are actually out there, but we do need them. Unless you want to spend hours of your day calling every company in the phone book, asking them if they need some sort of IT job doing. An agent is nothing more than your company's Business Development Manager, it would cost you money to hire one!
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by cykophysh39 View Post
                      A neccessary evil in the Contractor,
                      ...
                      Spread the love people we need agents! maybe not as many as are actually out there, but we do need them. Unless you want to spend hours of your day calling every company in the phone book, asking them if they need some sort of IT job doing. An agent is nothing more than your company's Business Development Manager, it would cost you money to hire one!
                      Rubbish, if you're good at what you do, your clients can find you. Through recommendations of other technical people, though LinkedIn or googling, or whatever.

                      Maybe clients don't do enough of that right now, but if there were no agents, they would be forced to. And they would get better results.

                      No place for agents at all.
                      Der going over der to get der der's.

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