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Dealing with Day Rate disclosure requests.

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    #11
    I do hate agents who ask for rates.

    I tend to ask what type of rate the candidate attracts or expects.

    I expect this information before I'll disclose the clients expectations - if they're within, I'll explain that it's within the expectations - if it's higher, Ill explain that they're outside of budget, so if they want to work for the client, they'll need a re-think.

    Contary to popular belief, if you are below budget, agents will usually reduce the rate to the client - if you're cheaper, you're more likely to get the gig.... I accept that there are agents who will try and pocket the difference, but most, would rather plaster the cracks in skillset, with additional days for the same budget..... remember - 30% of nothing, is still nothing - no matter what happens....
    "Being a permy is like being married, when there's no more sex on the cards....and she's got fat."
    SlimRick

    Can't argue with that

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      #12
      I usually advise that my rate completely depends on a number of variables, including the type of work, how difficult it is, how many of more specialist skills it will tap into, how much WFH there is, etc, etc. I then give a large ballpark which covers the minimum I'd accept (£280) to the maximum I've been offered (£550) and say that once I know more I can narrow it down a bit.

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        #13
        Originally posted by The Agents View View Post
        I do hate agents who ask for rates.

        I tend to ask what type of rate the candidate attracts or expects.

        I expect this information before I'll disclose the clients expectations - if they're within, I'll explain that it's within the expectations - if it's higher, Ill explain that they're outside of budget, so if they want to work for the client, they'll need a re-think.

        Contary to popular belief, if you are below budget, agents will usually reduce the rate to the client - if you're cheaper, you're more likely to get the gig.... I accept that there are agents who will try and pocket the difference, but most, would rather plaster the cracks in skillset, with additional days for the same budget..... remember - 30% of nothing, is still nothing - no matter what happens....
        Whoa-whoa-whoa "30% of nothing", is that your cut?

        Regards,

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          #14
          WHS - even the figures are the same.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Antman View Post
            Whoa-whoa-whoa "30% of nothing", is that your cut?

            Regards,
            If the proposition I select is not successful, it doesn't matter if my cut is 200% of nothing....it's still nothing!
            "Being a permy is like being married, when there's no more sex on the cards....and she's got fat."
            SlimRick

            Can't argue with that

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              #16
              Originally posted by The Agents View View Post
              I do hate agents who ask for rates.

              I tend to ask what type of rate the candidate attracts or expects.

              I expect this information before I'll disclose the clients expectations - if they're within, I'll explain that it's within the expectations - if it's higher, Ill explain that they're outside of budget, so if they want to work for the client, they'll need a re-think.

              Contary to popular belief, if you are below budget, agents will usually reduce the rate to the client - if you're cheaper, you're more likely to get the gig.... I accept that there are agents who will try and pocket the difference, but most, would rather plaster the cracks in skillset, with additional days for the same budget..... remember - 30% of nothing, is still nothing - no matter what happens....
              And there is me thinking we got 70% of your money, not the other way around... discuss..
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                #17
                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                And there is me thinking we got 70% of your money, not the other way around... discuss..
                If I select you, and you don't get the gig, you can have my cut as well....
                "Being a permy is like being married, when there's no more sex on the cards....and she's got fat."
                SlimRick

                Can't argue with that

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Agents View View Post
                  If I select you, and you don't get the gig, you can have my cut as well....
                  If *you* select?


                  Not up yourself much for an agent are you?/
                  Still Invoicing

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
                    I always ask them what the client is prepared to pay first.

                    Then I tell them that rate plus a bit more is 'within my ball park figure' for the role.

                    If they then ask what my current rate is, depending how I feel I'll say about the same as the rate on offer or a little bit more than the rate on offer.
                    This, exactly.

                    When they ask how much I want, I always say "as much as I can get" and then work from there. What are they paying? Where is it? What's the work involve? Once I know the answers to those, I can then come up with some idea of price.
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
                      This, exactly.

                      When they ask how much I want, I always say "as much as I can get" and then work from there. What are they paying? Where is it? What's the work involve? Once I know the answers to those, I can then come up with some idea of price.
                      Exactly the rate depends on the gig, what the client is prepared to pay, how they perceive what you are worth, the current market conditions and how much margin the Agency has negotiated or is prepared to go to. Previous or current rates are totally irrelevant to this discussion and if they get really picky about it just red flag's the fact the Agency / Client don't understand the market.

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