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    #21
    Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
    I've started seeing this quite frequency recently in job specs "The ideal candidate will live within a daily commutable distance of.........."
    The only problem I have with that is the bad English, it should be "commutable distance from..."
    Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
    Say what!? Since when has this been important in a job spec? Yes, I know they may want you to be at their beck and call, and even that seems like strong direction and control.

    It is bordering on a new kind of discrimination, discriminating against candidates who arent local or within the 'commutable distance.'
    Oh come on, this is public sector mentality! We live in a (kind of) free country. Why can't the employer be free to decide if they want a local person or not? They probably have had problems with workforce coming late or bad local public transport.
    <Insert idea here> will never be adopted because the politicians are in the pockets of the banks!

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      #22
      Originally posted by petergriffin View Post
      The only problem I have with that is the bad English, it should be "commutable distance from..."
      Take that up with the agent but oh come on (to use your words!), do you understand what he's asking or not?

      Oh come on, this is public sector mentality! We live in a (kind of) free country. Why can't the employer be free to decide if they want a local person or not? They probably have had problems with workforce coming late or bad local public transport.
      The whole premise of the contracting market is a flexible and moveable workforce. Clients \ agents stating local only candidates negates that.

      So, I think you'll find it's your thinking that is more like 'public sector thinking'!
      I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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        #23
        Originally posted by jmo21 View Post
        Surely that's fair enough then and not really what the the OP was referring to.
        Found the ad, it came on an email:

        "Unix Systems Administrator to take on a contract
        at a leading Retail Bank in Milton Keynes.

        Role is 75% AIX based and 25% Solaris.

        Candidates must understand that being on call will be required at weekends
        aswell as during the week and therefore you must be willing to stay locally at
        the weekends if you are not currently withing a reasonable distance of Milton
        Keynes."

        Admittedly, not saying local candidates only but near enough.

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          #24
          Having historically been a contractor who searches world wide for a particular niche skillset and then moves to the area anyway(I don't have kids) - I'm not surprised by this.

          In fact, I'm a bit pleased, it used to really grind my gears that agents would simply search CV's and linked in for people within the region anyway; at least they are being honest about it by doing this.

          I know for a fact I got "put forward" (binned) for a gig because I wasn't within 50 miles of it, as I directly approached the client and got the gig myself - they were'nt bothered either.

          I think its greedy agencies myself - who see you being more likely to renew and perhaps take a rate cut / margin hike, based on how close you are to the client site (or how tied in you are) - maybe I'm a skeptic.

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            #25
            Originally posted by BigTime View Post
            Found the ad, it came on an email:

            "Unix Systems Administrator to take on a contract
            at a leading Retail Bank in Milton Keynes.

            Role is 75% AIX based and 25% Solaris.

            Candidates must understand that being on call will be required at weekends
            aswell as during the week and therefore you must be willing to stay locally at
            the weekends if you are not currently withing a reasonable distance of Milton
            Keynes."

            Admittedly, not saying local candidates only but near enough.
            Probably had some numpties interview and not understand the fact that if they were on call they may have to come in quickly so being 100 miles away is no good.
            "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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              #26
              Originally posted by BolshieBastard View Post
              I think that's a load of bellwhiff personally!

              Its more like agent want 'local' contractor as said agent knows 9 times out of 10, he can con the local contractor into taking a lower rate because its 'on his doorstep' and give him a bigger margin.

              The number of times I've had agents say to me this job is very local to you so you wont have travel and or accommadation expenses, could you do it for a lower rate, is quite common.

              You're actually the least informed member of this board. Recruiters fight for their jobs every single day - it's enough to try and get any kind of deal done in this economic climate, without clueless idiots like you spouting off about it being the agent at fault. When a client asks for a local candidate, you don't argue, you find what they want.

              Perhaps think about the reality of what you're writing before you write it..... For example, A recruitment consultant typically earns 10-15% of the profit margin that they generate. So when you talk about an agent tucking you up for £20, you're talking about risking £10 per day in the pocket of the agent, and gambling it to earn £12. I'd rather have £10 per day, £50 per week, £200 per month in commission, than a 50% drop out ratio because I've peeved the candidate off.

              As for the final line - what utter rubbish....you think they're doing that to increase their margin? They're doing it to make you the stand out candidate - to make you the most realistic commercial proposition. <mod snip>
              Last edited by cojak; 23 May 2012, 11:19. Reason: No insulting other posters in Professional Boards
              "Being a permy is like being married, when there's no more sex on the cards....and she's got fat."
              SlimRick

              Can't argue with that

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                #27
                Originally posted by BigTime View Post
                Found the ad, it came on an email:

                "Unix Systems Administrator to take on a contract
                at a leading Retail Bank in Milton Keynes.

                Role is 75% AIX based and 25% Solaris.

                Candidates must understand that being on call will be required at weekends
                aswell as during the week and therefore you must be willing to stay locally at
                the weekends if you are not currently withing a reasonable distance of Milton
                Keynes."

                Admittedly, not saying local candidates only but near enough.
                Have to say, that is not unreasonable IF you need to be on call regularly. However, the jobswerve advert didnt have that extra info in it. It just said local candidates preferred.
                I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!

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                  #28
                  I have deleted posts and would like to remind you of the code of behaviour in the professional forums.

                  http://forums.contractoruk.com/busin...al-forums.html
                  "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
                  - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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