New trend?

[BigTime]

Are these pizza delivery roles?

Seriously though, maybe these kinds of requirements are a reaction to people applying for non-commutable jobs, then providing businesses endless hassle with being late for work or wanting to work from home etc?

Then they should hire a perm and pay relocation.

My perspective is, if the job can be done over a VPN, I aint coming in.

[psychocandy]

Must admit I dont see why its any of the clients business where you live as long as you show up and do the work.

[northernladuk]

Must admit I dont see why its any of the clients business where you live as long as you show up and do the work.

I would tend to agree but have been turned down for two gigs down south in the past because I did not live locally. When I enquired why in both cases they have had contractors start with them and then give notice later due to the distance and opted for clients closer to home.

As I said in my first post I believe the raft of new 'contractors' that have been pushed in to this due to redundancy without understanding the full implications of it and are not willing to put the legwork in and see contracts through will make this a much more common occurance. I think the same will happen to notice periods and rates as this practice continues.

[jmo21]

I saw one in the last week or so and it said you needed this. It went on to say due to being oncall you had to stay at the weekend too. If I see it again I'll post the link.

Surely that's fair enough then and not really what the the OP was referring to.

[SueEllen]

As I said in my first post I believe the raft of new 'contractors' that have been pushed in to this due to redundancy without understanding the full implications of it and are not willing to put the legwork in and see contracts through will make this a much more common occurance. I think the same will happen to notice periods and rates as this practice continues.

Does that mean those of us who work all over the place should put our locations on our CVs?

Personally I don't put my location on, or where my clients are located especially with contracts where I work at a mixture of places including from home.

[northernladuk]

Does that mean those of us who work all over the place should put our locations on our CVs?

Personally I don't put my location on, or where my clients are located especially with contracts where I work at a mixture of places including from home.

Not so sure where in my rant I indicated we should put locations? Locations for mine are on as it is pretty obvious where they are so don't have an issue but that is just me. To be honest I never really thought locations mattered a stuff but if this is the new trend maybe I ought to take your lead as well.

[The Agents View]

This is all very simple really - and makes sound business sense if you think of it from the clients perspective. Imagine the scenario.

Northern Monkey, gets job at Cornwall Monkeys Inc. His daily rate's OK, he's got his accomodation paid for - it's all good. But Northern Monkey does miss Mrs Monkey a bit, and proper pie and gravy a lot....(or potentially Mrs Monkey has moved out, and Northern Monkey is paying his massive mortgage, for a house which is unlived in for 5 days out of 7). But it was the only thing going at the time, so Northern Monkey HAD to take it.

Then, 2 months later, Northern Monkey Lovers Incorporated rings up and says "I need this that and the other doing....I'll add £50 to your rate and give you the same length contract....fancy it?"

Lets be honest - everyone would be tempted - despite the fact that most contractors will do their best to avoid upsetting clients, quite regularly, they try even harder to look after themselves - and in this situation, it's all a bit too easy to say yes.

So Cornwall Monkeys have now spent 2 months paying a daily rate, have invested all of their IP into a contractor - who is going to up and leave because they picked up something closer to home. Half the budget's gone, and there's suddenly no time to bring anyone new up to speed.

Take someone local, and it's less likely to happen like that (although not impossible). It's not right necessarily, but in these risk averse, times of austerity, it is actually quite sensible when you think about it.

[dynamicsaxcontractor]

This is all very simple really - and makes sound business sense if you think of it from the clients perspective. Imagine the scenario.

Northern Monkey, gets job at Cornwall Monkeys Inc. His daily rate's OK, he's got his accomodation paid for - it's all good. But Northern Monkey does miss Mrs Monkey a bit, and proper pie and gravy a lot....(or potentially Mrs Monkey has moved out, and Northern Monkey is paying his massive mortgage, for a house which is unlived in for 5 days out of 7). But it was the only thing going at the time, so Northern Monkey HAD to take it.

Then, 2 months later, Northern Monkey Lovers Incorporated rings up and says "I need this that and the other doing....I'll add £50 to your rate and give you the same length contract....fancy it?"

Lets be honest - everyone would be tempted - despite the fact that most contractors will do their best to avoid upsetting clients, quite regularly, they try even harder to look after themselves - and in this situation, it's all a bit too easy to say yes.

So Cornwall Monkeys have now spent 2 months paying a daily rate, have invested all of their IP into a contractor - who is going to up and leave because they picked up something closer to home. Half the budget's gone, and there's suddenly no time to bring anyone new up to speed.

Take someone local, and it's less likely to happen like that (although not impossible). It's not right necessarily, but in these risk averse, times of austerity, it is actually quite sensible when you think about it.

If Cornwall Monkeys would have agreed to Northern Monkey that he could WFH 2 days a week and given him a decent rate from the start this would never happen.

[BolshieBastard]

This is all very simple really - and makes sound business sense if you think of it from the clients perspective. Imagine the scenario.

Northern Monkey, gets job at Cornwall Monkeys Inc. His daily rate's OK, he's got his accomodation paid for - it's all good. But Northern Monkey does miss Mrs Monkey a bit, and proper pie and gravy a lot....(or potentially Mrs Monkey has moved out, and Northern Monkey is paying his massive mortgage, for a house which is unlived in for 5 days out of 7). But it was the only thing going at the time, so Northern Monkey HAD to take it.

Then, 2 months later, Northern Monkey Lovers Incorporated rings up and says "I need this that and the other doing....I'll add £50 to your rate and give you the same length contract....fancy it?"

Lets be honest - everyone would be tempted - despite the fact that most contractors will do their best to avoid upsetting clients, quite regularly, they try even harder to look after themselves - and in this situation, it's all a bit too easy to say yes.

So Cornwall Monkeys have now spent 2 months paying a daily rate, have invested all of their IP into a contractor - who is going to up and leave because they picked up something closer to home. Half the budget's gone, and there's suddenly no time to bring anyone new up to speed.

Take someone local, and it's less likely to happen like that (although not impossible). It's not right necessarily, but in these risk averse, times of austerity, it is actually quite sensible when you think about it.

I think that's a load of bellwhiff personally!

Its more like agent want 'local' contractor as said agent knows 9 times out of 10, he can con the local contractor into taking a lower rate because its 'on his doorstep' and give him a bigger margin.

The number of times I've had agents say to me this job is very local to you so you wont have travel and or accommadation expenses, could you do it for a lower rate, is quite common.

[dynamicsaxcontractor]

I think that's a load of bellwhiff personally!

Its more like agent want 'local' contractor as said agent knows 9 times out of 10, he can con the local contractor into taking a lower rate because its 'on his doorstep' and give him a bigger margin.

The number of times I've had agents say to me this job is very local to you so you wont have travel and or accommadation expenses, could you do it for a lower rate, is quite common.

Agents try any trick they can possible think of to rip us off.