Regarding being replaced by a permie

[Peter Loew]

Here's a question that you can't really google (pun intended),

When you're in the position where the client is looking to replace you with a permie, is the client open and honest with you and tell you that that's what they're doing, or do they do it 'behind your back' and simply give you notice when they've hired someone?

P

[SimonMac]

Here's a question that you can't really google (pun intended),

When you're in the position where the client is looking to replace you with a permie, is the client open and honest with you and tell you that that's what they're doing, or do they do it 'behind your back' and simply give you notice when they've hired someone?

P

Depends on the client, when ever this has happened to me I have been expected to prepare a handover to the permie in question

[JamJarST]

Here's a question that you can't really google (pun intended),

When you're in the position where the client is looking to replace you with a permie, is the client open and honest with you and tell you that that's what they're doing, or do they do it 'behind your back' and simply give you notice when they've hired someone?

P

I was asked to attend the interviews to assess the candates' technical knowledge and ability so my client was very up front. My sole reason for being there was to provide covber until a permie could be hired.

[scooby]

I suggested to a previous client that they replaced me with a perm as it would be cheaper and easier for them!

The client can do what they please.

[northernladuk]

I suggested to a previous client that they replaced me with a perm as it would be cheaper and easier for them!

The client can do what they please.

Oddly enough that isn't strictly true in more and more cases now, particularly with project work. Easier to get a contractor in more and more now rather than hassle of HR and the rest. Remember when a company budgets and FTE they tend to be close to actual cost to the company if they double his wage so not that far of a contractor.. and a contractor doesn't have to be there all year.

[northernladuk]

Here's a question that you can't really google (pun intended),

When you're in the position where the client is looking to replace you with a permie, is the client open and honest with you and tell you that that's what they're doing, or do they do it 'behind your back' and simply give you notice when they've hired someone?

P

I would expect either of these and don't think I would be offended at either. I would not see them 'doing it behind my back'. It is not my position I am in. I am doing a short piece of work and when it is done I move on. It would be nice if they dovetailed him starting to when I leave but I work on the assumption I have a notice period and the client can (and has) invoked it as need be.

What the client does with permies is none of my business.

[bless 'em all]

I would expect either of these and don't think I would be offended at either. I would not see them 'doing it behind my back'. It is not my position I am in. I am doing a short piece of work and when it is done I move on. It would be nice if they dovetailed him starting to when I leave but I work on the assumption I have a notice period and the client can (and has) invoked it as need be.

What the client does with permies is none of my business.

WHS

I was told by a previous client that they were looking to replace (or 'back-fill') the post I was filling with a permie. The permie was able to start sooner than they'd originally thought so I got my notice on the first day of my 2 month extension.

Although this was a bit of a pain (it was shortly before Christmas) you have to remember that this is business, and you're being there is an expensive luxury if you're not really needed.

[nomadd]

Here's a question that you can't really google (pun intended),

When you're in the position where the client is looking to replace you with a permie, is the client open and honest with you and tell you that that's what they're doing, or do they do it 'behind your back' and simply give you notice when they've hired someone?

P

Been in this position many times over the years. Conversation usually goes something like:

Client: "Have you ever considering working as a permanent employee?"
Me: "No."
Client: "Would you consider working for us as a permanent employee?"
Me: "Er..."
Client: "It has a huge number of benefits..."
Me: "What does it pay?"
Client: "Well... Nothing like what a Contractor gets paid..."
Me: "Let me know if you need any help looking over cv's or doing interviews."

[JamJarST]

Been in this position many times over the years. Conversation usually goes something like:

Client: "Have you ever considering working as a permanent employee?"
Me: "No."
Client: "Would you consider working for us as a permanent employee?"
Me: "Er..."
Client: "It has a huge number of benefits..."
Me: "What does it pay?"
Client: "Well... Nothing like what a Contractor gets paid..."
Me: "Let me know if you need any help looking over cv's or doing interviews."

Lol, I had that conversation half way throught the process when they hadn't found a suitable permie.

[scooby]

Oddly enough that isn't strictly true in more and more cases now, particularly with project work. Easier to get a contractor in more and more now rather than hassle of HR and the rest. Remember when a company budgets and FTE they tend to be close to actual cost to the company if they double his wage so not that far of a contractor.. and a contractor doesn't have to be there all year.

Thats a v good point. With NI, Pension etc yes it increases the cost of a Perm. My suggestion was more from a Moo point of view and the fact they want me hanging around at their beck and call.