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    #11
    The three weeks contract has been with an agent and I have been paid for that, when they asked me to work there has been a direct request, no agent involved anymore
    and in January they asked me this "Did you tell anything to the agent? I am going to meet him now and I will pretend I haven't seen you since December", my answer was "I haven't spoken with him".

    They did not give me any reason, they are actually not answering my emails at all, disappeared.

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      #12
      Yes North I put myself in a very bad position, I was not expecting such an outcome honestly, I am a decent guy and I tend to think
      people are decent, I made a big mistake and probably a huge loss, not only a money loss, I really worked hard to complete the project
      staying awake even during nights because I like to carry on my duties in the best possible way.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Fra View Post
        The three weeks contract has been with an agent and I have been paid for that, when they asked me to work there has been a direct request, no agent involved anymore
        and in January they asked me this "Did you tell anything to the agent? I am going to meet him now and I will pretend I haven't seen you since December", my answer was "I haven't spoken with him".

        They did not give me any reason, they are actually not answering my emails at all, disappeared.
        I feel at this point I have to bow to other peoples opinion. You are indeed a troll and I am guilty of feeding it. I am ashamed.
        'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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          #14
          Originally posted by Fra View Post
          Yes North I put myself in a very bad position, I was not expecting such an outcome honestly, I am a decent guy and I tend to think
          people are decent, I made a big mistake and probably a huge loss, not only a money loss, I really worked hard to complete the project
          staying awake even during nights because I like to carry on my duties in the best possible way.
          Effectively you had a contract with the client. Send them a bill for the work done and then follow up. A verbal contract is binding and the fact that they let you in to do the work is clear evidence they agreed.

          It's possible they might deny you were there, but that would be a criminal offence for fraud if they did, i.e. you could go to the police. They might be a little less likely to deny in front of a police detective with an offence that carries a jail sentence. If they phoned you up or there were telephone calls that should be traceable. The fact that they called you up would be strong circumstantial evidence in your favour.

          If you have any proof at all you were there, you shouldn't have any trouble.

          Don't just give up, start the ball rolling. If they don't respond then a court will decide in your favour, if they do respond with "he wasn't there" then remind them what "fraud" is and any evidence you might have, and that you wouldn't hesitate to report it to the police. I think that will cause them to settle up.
          Last edited by BlasterBates; 1 March 2012, 17:36.
          I'm alright Jack

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            #15
            Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
            Effectively you had a contract with the client. Send them a bill for the work done and then follow up. A verbal contract is binding and the fact that they let you in to do the work is clear evidence they agreed.

            It's possible they might deny you were there, but that would be a criminal offence for fraud if they did, i.e. you could go to the police. They might be a little less likely to deny in front of a police detective with an offence that carries a jail sentence. If they phoned you up or there were telephone calls that should be traceable. The fact that they called you up would be strong circumstantial evidence in your favour.

            If you have any proof at all you were there, you shouldn't have any trouble.

            Don't just give up, start the ball rolling. If they don't respond then a court will decide in your favour, if they do respond with "he wasn't there" then remind them what "fraud" is and any evidence you might have, and that you wouldn't hesitate to report it to the police. I think that will cause them to settle up.
            Yes I've got really plenty of evidence I was there, thank you very much

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              #16
              Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
              I feel at this point I have to bow to other peoples opinion. You are indeed a troll and I am guilty of feeding it. I am ashamed.
              Hi, if you live in the south east I can offer you a coffe so you will understand I am not a troll

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                #17
                Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                Effectively you had a contract with the client. Send them a bill for the work done and then follow up. A verbal contract is binding and the fact that they let you in to do the work is clear evidence they agreed.
                Are you sure about this? His contract was with the agent so cannot be implied if he is now working for the client directly. There is a verbal contract at very best with no terms. Surely he will have a very hard time convincing anyone the terms are still implied from the old one?

                According the contract (if implied) he shouldn't even be there. The agent should step in here and demand his cut.

                It's possible they might deny you were there, but that would be a criminal offence for fraud if they did, i.e. you could go to the police. They might be a little less likely to deny in front of a police detective with an offence that carries a jail sentence. If they phoned you up or there were telephone calls that should be traceable. The fact that they called you up would be strong circumstantial evidence in your favour.

                If you have any proof at all you were there, you shouldn't have any trouble.

                Don't just give up, start the ball rolling. If they don't respond then a court will decide in your favour, if they do respond with "he wasn't there" then remind them what "fraud" is and any evidence you might have, and that you wouldn't hesitate to report it to the police. I think that will cause them to settle up.
                The keyword is court. That includes the cost of lawyer, lengthy argument of contracts and so on and from what I see here his chances of winning are slim and not cheap.
                'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                  #18
                  In your shoes (I wouldn't be as would never have got into this situation by not signing a contract), I would write to the client and inform them that they can not use any of your deliverables until they are paid for and if funds are not forthcoming request your deliverables to be permamently deleted and get this letter written by a solicilitor on their headed paper.
                  one day at a time

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by oscarose View Post
                    In your shoes (I wouldn't be as would never have got into this situation by not signing a contract), I would write to the client and inform them that they can not use any of your deliverables until they are paid for and if funds are not forthcoming request your deliverables to be permamently deleted and get this letter written by a solicilitor on their headed paper.
                    Although an admirable the fact they won't respond to him for payment do you think they will listen to this?
                    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                      Although an admirable the fact they won't respond to him for payment do you think they will listen to this?
                      Maybe not, but an inexpensive option to apply pressure on the client. Needs to be addressed to the correct individual at the client, e.g. chief exec or MD and sent recorded delivery.
                      one day at a time

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