Trying to hire Java programmers

[TiroFijo]

Hello folks,

I started contracting about 12 years ago and now run a small, successful consultancy. Recently we started developing and selling our own software and demand is good. However, i'm damned if I can find any java programmers to join the team and we've been advertising extensively for months now.

Does anyone know what the general Java market is like right now? Are there really no java programmers at any level (student placements, grads, experienced coders) looking for work? I thought there were hundreds (thousands?) of graduates, programmers, all sorts our there in tough-economy-land. But it seems that's not the case and they already all have jobs they love. We really are drawing a complete blank and I can't understand why so thought I'd ask if anyone had any knowledge of the market in general.

Where can I find Java people?!! Any tips greatly appreciated.
Cheers
MR

I'm surprised you you have not been swamped with CVs from from Indians!

[ChimpMaster]

Do Java contractors still get paid well in and around London? I thought this was one of the most offshored skillsets?

[nomadd]

Do Java contractors still get paid well in and around London? I thought this was one of the most offshored skillsets?

Jobserve, today: Permie Java jobs paying £100k+: 129. Contract Java roles paying £450+: 168. Total contract + permie Java jobs on offer: 2,700 (of course some of these will be dupes.)

So I guess it depends on your definition of "well paid".

[DeludedAussie]

Jobserve, today: Permie Java jobs paying £100k+: 129. Contract Java roles paying £450+: 168. Total contract + permie Java jobs on offer: 2,700 (of course some of these will be dupes.)

So I guess it depends on your definition of "well paid".

Well paid is 1k a day - And there are none paying that

[nomadd]

Well paid is 1k a day - And there are none paying that

There you go with those "rupee rates" again...

EDIT: Or if you prefer "our pounds English", here's what I do as a Java guy: http://www.jobserve.com/Applications...4114B4C9.jsjob

You won't get that 1k/day for Java on it's own, but back it up with some more specialist skills and you will (just like any other programming language...)