Capital International HR Solutions Ltd

[peakster]

Anyone had experience of these chaps at Capital International. I've contacted them about a couple of positions, and already they're are telling me that it's best I sign the "opt-out" form, and that they need 2 references.

I've already told them no references unless the client asks me specifically, but already they're irritating me.

[tim123]

Anyone had experience of these chaps at Capital International. I've contacted them about a couple of positions, and already they're are telling me that it's best I sign the "opt-out" form, and that they need 2 references.

I've already told them no references unless the client asks me specifically, but already they're irritating me.

of Burgess Hill?

Yeh, I've worked with them twice. Before you (had to) opt-out though. Never been hassled for refs.

tim

[Denny]

Anyone had experience of these chaps at Capital International. I've contacted them about a couple of positions, and already they're are telling me that it's best I sign the "opt-out" form, and that they need 2 references.

I've already told them no references unless the client asks me specifically, but already they're irritating me.

No agency can force contractors to opt out. Just tell them you haven't decided yet, much depends on the on-site working conditions or else, if you fear not being represented if you say that, tell them you 'intend 'to opt out in writing but without committing yourself by signing the form. After the gig is in the bag you can them remain opted in if you choose to.

Agencies are doing this routinely. Their opted out forms are also carefully worded to state on it that you are opting out voluntarily when they are covertly trying to force you to by presenting you with this option as if its a condition of representation. I just ignore my forms if I get sent them and ask the recruiter to confirm in writing that they've forwarded my details to the client instead. No client is bothered about opting in or out. It's got nothing to do with them.

[peakster]

Thanks Tim, Denny.

I had already decided on not making a choice with the opt-in/opt-out yet until a got close to the client. As I've only been contracting abroad I've not had to worry about this, I've just kept a loose eye on this situation.

I guess it's time to read the 53 page DTI "leaflet" on the regulations!

[OrangeHopper]

Ah, Bogs Hole, lovely place.

[malvolio]

You can opt out immediately and decide to opt in at any point up to actually starting work. So if you think opting in is a good idea (it isn't, but don't worry about it), that is the way to play it.

[OrangeHopper]

Scots went for an interview in Bogs Hole once.

Didn't take the jobs because it was too warm for him.

[tim123]

The problem with this opting out malarkey is that you can't do it once you have been introduced to the client.

Whilst it is correct to say that the agent can't make you opt out, you do have to make the decision before the the agent represents you to the client.

tim

[malvolio]

So...? Is it too difficult to include an indication that you wish to opt-out at this time in your initial response to the agency?

[boredsenseless]

So...? Is it too difficult to include an indication that you wish to opt-out at this time in your initial response to the agency?

In law once you've met with the client its too late to choose, you have to state (or by not stating accept the defacto situation of opting-in) your preference before the initial introduction.

Although so long as all are happy I'm sure a couple of pre-dated letters could resolve the situation afterwards