What is your opinion?

[IT contract agent]

do agree with you that the amount of info you're asking for seems applicable to an opt in candidate.

re opting out - why before the introduction?

[tim123]

re opting out - why before the introduction?

Because that is what the act says.

Are you really an RC?

tim

[Mordac]

re opting out - why before the introduction?

Have you ever read the regulations? Like most agents, it looks like you haven't.

http://www.dti.gov.uk/er/agency/newregs.htm

[IT contract agent]

Mordac - I'm a sales person not here to do admin

But - as I understand it we're not required to get an opt out signed before an introduction. before the contractor goes on site yes, but not before an introduction.

Have you read them?

[Lucifer Box]

Mordac is correct and you are wrong.

[malvolio]

Mordac - I'm a sales person not here to do admin

But - as I understand it we're not required to get an opt out signed before an introduction. before the contractor goes on site yes, but not before an introduction.

Have you read them?

Actually yes, I have. The Conduct of Employment Agencies and Employment Businesses Regulations 2003 paragraph (9) of Clause 32 is as follows:

“(9) Subject to paragraph (12), paragraphs (1) - (8) shall not apply where a work-seeker which is a company, and the person who is or would be supplied by that work-seeker to carry out the work, agree that they should not apply, and give notice of that agreement to an employment business or agency, provided that such notice is given before the introduction or supply of the work-seeker or the person who would be supplied by the work-seeker to do the work, to the hirer.”

Or in English, the contractor has to choose to opt out before introduction to the client. Otherwise how can you represent him properly to your client, since you will have to use the appropriate description of how the candidate is presenting his skills to your client via your agency and if successful, provide the contractual Ts&Cs appropiate to that status.

It is disturbing that you don't know that, and that you clearly make no distinction between the two conditions, whichare actually significant.

Finally, it may just be "admin" to you, sunshine, but its contractual obligations and professional services on us. You just put the campaign for "Agents are Human Too" back a few years. Well done.

[IT contract agent]

"or supply"

?

[malvolio]

You really are in the wrong job, aren't you. Tell you what, you stick to selling, but do try to remember that what you're selling is a lot more competent in contract law than you appear to be.

[Mordac]

Mordac - I'm a sales person not here to do admin

But - as I understand it we're not required to get an opt out signed before an introduction. before the contractor goes on site yes, but not before an introduction.

Have you read them?

Yes. It's about my business, of course I read them. I'm rather surprised you didn't think they were important enough to waste your time with.
Having said that though, if you had read them you'd have known you have been making a complete tit of yourself on the subject.
I suggest you go back and read them, and find out where else you've been going wrong all this time.

[IT contract agent]

I asked a question - you went into confrontational mode!!!

you opt in...you opt out - its for you to know what’s in the regs as its for you to decide what to do not me!