Contract rate negotiation question

**Wanderer** · 1 July 2010, 07:39

Originally posted by theroyale View Post

Do agents ever ask for payslips from your previous contracts/employments, to "prove" you have been receiving the rate you tell them you were getting?

I've not been asked, but I'm sure they would ask sometimes. Your previous rate has nothing to do with them. What if the last job was working from home on a really cushy number and the new one involves a 4 hour commute - would the rates be comparable? No.

I'd just say "My current rate is XXX/day. The rate I was paid in my previous contract is not relevant to this discussion".

**northernladuk** · 1 July 2010, 08:57

Originally posted by theroyale View Post

Do agents ever ask for payslips from your previous contracts/employments, to "prove" you have been receiving the rate you tell them you were getting?

You are a business. Start thinking like a business. You are under no obligation to 'prove' anything. You are negotiating a role to secure a new contract. Previous rates have absolutely nothing to do with the new one.

Remember... You are a buiness now... not a permie, or a worker, or a resource... a business.

**Sausage Surprise** · 1 July 2010, 12:21

Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

You are a business. Start thinking like a business. You are under no obligation to 'prove' anything. You are negotiating a role to secure a new contract. Previous rates have absolutely nothing to do with the new one.

Remember... You are a buiness now... not a permie, or a worker, or a resource... a business.

WHS

**ratewhore** · 1 July 2010, 14:35

Originally posted by theroyale View Post

Do agents ever ask for payslips from your previous contracts/employments, to "prove" you have been receiving the rate you tell them you were getting?

They could try but then, they could fark right off too!!!

**xxxxmmmm** · 1 July 2010, 18:17

Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

You are a business. Start thinking like a business. You are under no obligation to 'prove' anything. You are negotiating a role to secure a new contract. Previous rates have absolutely nothing to do with the new one.

Remember... You are a buiness now... not a permie, or a worker, or a resource... a business.

Good advice, but when you really need a new contract, it's not easy to say NO to ANY question.
Had the same situation 12 years ago, and not only had to answer, but also had to provide papers proving my previous pay rate.

**nomadd** · 1 July 2010, 20:36

Originally posted by theroyale View Post

Do agents ever ask for payslips from your previous contracts/employments, to "prove" you have been receiving the rate you tell them you were getting?

Yes they do. An you must supply them by law. You must also supply medical records going back 5 years if requested. Again, this is the law. Ditto bank statements from both your personal and company accounts detailing all transactions for the last 5 years. And credit card statements, going back 10 years. Again, this is all a legal requirement.

Good job some of us old hands were here to help you. You might have got into all sorts of trouble otherwise.

**northernladuk** · 1 July 2010, 20:54

Originally posted by xxxxmmmm View Post

Good advice, but when you really need a new contract, it's not easy to say NO to ANY question.
Had the same situation 12 years ago, and not only had to answer, but also had to provide papers proving my previous pay rate.

Rubbish. If the question is completely irrelavant it may actually damage your reputation by answering stupid questions proving you do not know what you are doing. You still have to act like a professional when looking for work. You have to earn some respect and trust for the agent to put you forward.

**TheFaQQer** · 1 July 2010, 21:17

Ask the pimp to send you a copy of his contract, pay slips and bank statement first, then you might consider proving yours.

And since when do payslips represent what you earn - or are you through an umbrella?

FWIW, I don't get a payslip from my Ltd.

**xxxxmmmm** · 1 July 2010, 21:27

Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

Rubbish. If the question is completely irrelavant it may actually damage your reputation by answering stupid questions proving you do not know what you are doing. You still have to act like a professional when looking for work. You have to earn some respect and trust for the agent to put you forward.

No it's not, see the post above

That is the law and the real life.
If you can send off any client you don't like, I envy you

Contract rate negotiation question