change to reporting structure

**northernladuk** · 11 May 2010, 13:51

Originally posted by kermitt View Post

Been in a gig for over a year now was granted an extension in Feb this year. Have just been informed that the Company are changing the reporting structure and that I no longer report to the guy I was who was a few hundred miles away and that now it will be the manager at the building where I work. My temporary place of work remains unchanged and I think so will my contract.
Makes sense for them really but does it affect my contract or can I /should I use it to renegotiate again?

How does it affect your contract?? Only you can tell us this as you have the contract. Read it and see if it does. I can't see how. If you have a level of detail of who you report to in it I would be worried about IR35 issues to be honest but can't see that happening. You are contracted to the client to do a piece of work. I don't see in this scenario how either of those things have changed so why the need?

Read your contract first before you do anything IMO

**The Agents View** · 11 May 2010, 14:04

Originally posted by kermitt View Post

Been in a gig for over a year now was granted an extension in Feb this year. Have just been informed that the Company are changing the reporting structure and that I no longer report to the guy I was who was a few hundred miles away and that now it will be the manager at the building where I work. My temporary place of work remains unchanged and I think so will my contract.
Makes sense for them really but does it affect my contract or can I /should I use it to renegotiate again?

This is just a bad joke right?

What on earth makes you think that a change of the person who controls the work given to your LIMITED COMPANY (ie not to you) being changed gives you grounds to negotiate your rate?

Your reporting line has not changed - YOU ARE A LIMITED COMPANY.

**kermitt** · 11 May 2010, 14:43

I don't see particularly that it does change, only the individual approving my timesheets. Unless they themselves want to take the opportunity to start throwing some weight about and try to renegotiate T's & C's with me because they have more control than before. Will just have to wait and see.

**jmo21** · 11 May 2010, 19:09

if the person you were reporting to handed in his notice and left, do you think that would give you grounds to renegotiate?

**kermitt** · 14 May 2010, 11:15

Just had a wee informal chat with the 'replacement boss' and he mentioned that they will be looking for me to do 37.5 hours a week and thinks this should be in my contract. This was never in my original contract for services as it states I have complete autonomy as to how I do my job running Ltd Company etc.

Now I know I should be professional etc and keep the client happy but I have at least a 2 hour drive each way and doing 8 till 5 ain't my bag as I am not wanting to hang around to fill the clock, neither should I need to as I aint a permie or on an hourly rate. OK so maybe am a bit lazy in that respect but if push comes to shove am thinking I will be finding another gig.

**nomadd** · 14 May 2010, 17:41

Originally posted by kermitt View Post

Now I know I should be professional etc and keep the client happy but I have at least a 2 hour drive each way and doing 8 till 5 ain't my bag as I am not wanting to hang around to fill the clock, neither should I need to as I aint a permie or on an hourly rate. OK so maybe am a bit lazy in that respect but if push comes to shove am thinking I will be finding another gig.

Completely understand, as I work the same way. In before 8, out the door at 4:30. Period. Mind you, I do make this very, very clear in the interview; if the client doesn't like it, I politely decline the contract. So, the question is, did you discuss any of this when you signed up?

Nomadd

**BolshieBastard** · 14 May 2010, 17:48

Originally posted by jmo21 View Post

if the person you were reporting to handed in his notice and left, do you think that would give you grounds to renegotiate?

LOL!

Originally posted by kermitt View Post

Just had a wee informal chat with the 'replacement boss' and he mentioned that they will be looking for me to do 37.5 hours a week and thinks this should be in my contract. This was never in my original contract for services as it states I have complete autonomy as to how I do my job running Ltd Company etc.

Now I know I should be professional etc and keep the client happy but I have at least a 2 hour drive each way and doing 8 till 5 ain't my bag as I am not wanting to hang around to fill the clock, neither should I need to as I aint a permie or on an hourly rate. OK so maybe am a bit lazy in that respect but if push comes to shove am thinking I will be finding another gig.

Even louder LOL and I thought I was pissed off with my job!

**Sally BFCA** · 19 May 2010, 13:50

Originally posted by kermitt View Post

Just had a wee informal chat with the 'replacement boss' and he mentioned that they will be looking for me to do 37.5 hours a week and thinks this should be in my contract. This was never in my original contract for services as it states I have complete autonomy as to how I do my job running Ltd Company etc.

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This would indicate a mutuality of obligation with the client that was not present before. I'm unsure how you are accounting, either inside or outside, but if you are accounting outside then the status could be jeopardised. Ensure that the real working arrangements are reflective in the contract, otherwise it is deemed a sham.

**Wanderer** · 20 May 2010, 07:13

Originally posted by kermitt View Post

Just had a wee informal chat with the 'replacement boss' and he mentioned that they will be looking for me to do 37.5 hours a week and thinks this should be in my contract. This was never in my original contract for services as it states I have complete autonomy as to how I do my job running Ltd Company etc.

Politely remind the boss that you are a contractor, not a permie.

Your original contract sounds like it was fairly good from an IR35 point of view, you really don't want to lose this (either in writing or in working practices) or you will be hit by IR35 and it will cost a lot of money.

change to reporting structure