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    Applying for a job twice?

    Fixed term contract leading to possible perm. The job is very juicy indeed for me so I want it too much. Really would rescue me from the bench.

    I applied via agent 8 days ago as that's how I found it. I asked for feedback this morning and he replies 'Heard nothing, maybe end of week'. I don't know *for sure* that he put me forward.

    I've now seen it posted on big bank's site [since several weeks] and also another job that suits me too.

    Is it bad to send my CV independently to Big Bank ?

    I know traditionally it is poor form to apply for a contract via two agents. As I understand it (from agents) if the client sees same profile from two sources the candidate is binned because if selected which agency is representing ?

    But maybe HR would like to see 'their' system winning. It is in Asia if that is relevant.

    The job and me are a perfect fit but I fear that Bob or an ex-419er will blag it to the max and get in front of me.

    ?What would you do ?

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    Originally posted by LegendsWear7 View Post
    Fixed term contract leading to possible perm. The job is very juicy indeed for me so I want it too much. Really would rescue me from the bench.

    I applied via agent 8 days ago as that's how I found it. I asked for feedback this morning and he replies 'Heard nothing, maybe end of week'. I don't know *for sure* that he put me forward.

    I've now seen it posted on big bank's site [since several weeks] and also another job that suits me too.

    Is it bad to send my CV independently to Big Bank ?

    I know traditionally it is poor form to apply for a contract via two agents. As I understand it (from agents) if the client sees same profile from two sources the candidate is binned because if selected which agency is representing ?

    But maybe HR would like to see 'their' system winning. It is in Asia if that is relevant.

    The job and me are a perfect fit but I fear that Bob or an ex-419er will blag it to the max and get in front of me.

    ?What would you do ?
    You are right it is bad form to apply via two agends. There is a small chance it might help your cause, there is a bigger chance it is going to land you in a tulip storm and people will know your name for the wrong reasons. I did this when applying for my first contract and the agents got very nasty and probably aired their dirty washing with the client who won't have been pleased.

    I don't think there is a problem applying directly however. You are not pitching agents against each other who could attempt to screw it up for you out of spite and I don't think an HR bod will get too upset to see two CV's. Thing is though did you send anything to the agent saying you will use him as sole contact for that role? Depending on the wording it could get a bit sticky. I don't think the client will take you direct if you have applied via an agent.

    The only advantage would be I think, if the agent DIDN'T submit you your CV gets infront of the client. If he did the client will probably just bin the direct one.

    I see no harm in trying but I wouldn't be overly pushy to either party and start to look desperate. If these people are going to get it over you they will get it for a good reason and not just because they didn't see your CV.
    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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      #3
      Originally posted by LegendsWear7 View Post
      ?What would you do ?
      I'd have a search on CUK and see how many times it has been discussed whether you should or should not send your CV in twice.

      FWIW, I'd not send it direct.
      If you have to add a , it isn't funny. HTH. LOL.

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        #4
        Originally posted by LegendsWear7 View Post
        The job is very juicy indeed for me so I want it too much. Really would rescue me from the bench.
        This says it all. Do it

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          #5
          Similar situation.

          Job advertised today. My CV has been sent to the client by an agent.

          Job is being advertised by other agents.

          Do I assume that the agent is on the Preferred Supplier List & not apply twice.

          Or

          Do I assume that he is trying to blag his way in with my CV & apply through others?

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            #6
            Unless you are absolutely sure your cv has been sent, apply through the other agent as well. When I was an employer I was not in the least bothered by multiple applications. At the worst, one of the agents will get arsey with you - tough - that's life. Just say you didn't realise you were applying for the same gig twice.

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              #7
              Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
              ... did you send anything to the agent saying you will use him as sole contact for that role? Depending on the wording it could get a bit sticky. I don't think the client will take you direct if you have applied via an agent.
              At no time did we talk or email anything regarding exclusivity. [For a regular contract I would not consider applying by a second route.]

              I don't begrudge the agency getting a fat fee (for the service of forwarding the requirement to a job site and then forwarding my submitted .doc profile to the client company), I just want to get an interview leading to job and if submitting direct to their HR monkeys gets more [positive] attention then I should do it. Urgh. I hate being on the bench.

              Bit 50/50 on this one.
              Last edited by LegendsWear7; 23 March 2010, 16:11.

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                #8
                Originally posted by JimBobTwoTeeth View Post
                Similar situation.

                Job advertised today. My CV has been sent to the client by an agent.

                Job is being advertised by other agents.

                Do I assume that the agent is on the Preferred Supplier List & not apply twice.

                Or

                Do I assume that he is trying to blag his way in with my CV & apply through others?
                Don't assume anything. Just keep applying until someone tells you otherwise. If the agents don't tell you the client (which they often don't) then how are you supposed to know it's the same role. Only comes a bit unstuck if one agent pushes you to let him be the sole representative. Then it becomes a bit messy applying to different agents.
                'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                  Don't assume anything. Just keep applying until someone tells you otherwise. If the agents don't tell you the client (which they often don't) then how are you supposed to know it's the same role. Only comes a bit unstuck if one agent pushes you to let him be the sole representative. Then it becomes a bit messy applying to different agents.
                  You say the agent pushes you to let him be the sole representative but what else can you do? Unless it's a former client and you can skip the agent altogether where would there be a case for not agreeing to this?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Funkywood View Post
                    You say the agent pushes you to let him be the sole representative but what else can you do? Unless it's a former client and you can skip the agent altogether where would there be a case for not agreeing to this?
                    I can't see that there is, you have to chose someone. It is an informal agreement though to cover the agents ass and if you break it all the agent can do is sulk alot and try and prove to the client he had rights on you. if the client does pick you he has to take it through that agent. I dunno if this has ever been done or how binding it is to be honest. All I would guess is that if you get in to a situation where two agents are fighting over you infront of a client it can't be that good for you.
                    'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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