recruiter changing the maximum salary range

**SeekingIT** · 16 November 2009, 09:40

Bite Tongue

Get Interview, get role....once in, show them potential, may move you naturally.

While in role, if not recognizing potential, keep looking for other roles - even in same company.

Role in home town, equals more family time, less travel....

Buttcheeks making imprint on the bench....escape if you can!!!!

**northernladuk** · 16 November 2009, 10:05

QUOTE]Anyway the agency phoned back and mentioned that max slary rate was below what was posted on jobserve.[/QUOTE]

And you don't expect them to do this? They put max rate on to get best candidates and then put you forward at a rate that is most acceptable to client and most likely to get him the business. Doesn't this happen EVERY time? It has to me.

When I said other agencys don't seem to have this problem he got really arsey with me saying look there are lots of other people interested in this job if you don't want it.

He isn't wrong. Getting arsey with agents n clients is Shanti's job!

He is unfortuantely your bread and butter. P***ing him of gains you nothing

I also told him if i have an interview i will tell them i want to progress to 2nd line as soon as possible. He was very rude and said don't expect to be promoted in 6 months or even a year.

I gotta say I am struggling now. You are dictating what you want to a pimp that is just fulfilling the client needs? Are you really in a position to dictate terms to him? Again all you are doing is making the agent think you are going to leave and so not put you forward. The job is for that role. You are paid to do that role. Period. We don't take contracts on expectation of promotion. That is a permie perk

I think there is a good change i will get an interview ive never seen an agency advertise a perm job at a max rate then change it seems very dodgy.

Ahhhhh it IS a permie role? Why are you posting on a contractor forum? That makes things a bit clearer. Seems pretty normal to me, you are in a bartering/agreement phase. Nothing is cast in stone until its in writing awaiting your signature.

Im tempted to tell him where to go to be honest.

Wish I could afford to do this everytime I have a misundertanding with a pimp

Sounds like just another normal day in the job world working with agents. It isn't anything bad so I would just be polite, secure the job and the make your own future there.

**TheFaQQer** · 16 November 2009, 10:09

Get the job offer first, then dictate terms. There is no point trying to do it when you have no leverage.

**RichardCranium** · 16 November 2009, 10:44

Originally posted by slinkydonkey View Post

I don't like to use Hays It due to having bad experience with them in the past.

If I'd blacklisted every agency that had upset me, I don't think there'd be any left for me to use. There are worse agencies than Hays.

Originally posted by slinkydonkey View Post

Anyway the agency phoned back and mentioned that max slary rate was below what was posted on jobserve.

Very common for permie roles. They will take the top of the band, round it up, than add a lump sum to represent the value of the "package" of add-ons (pension, holiday, training, a chair). I expect a salary of £x to £y to mean £x to £y-5. They do it to attract people to apply. Agencies do it and so do employers.

Originally posted by slinkydonkey View Post

When I mentioned this to him he made some BS

Tip: he's an agent. They do that.

Originally posted by slinkydonkey View Post

I also told him if i have an interview i will tell them i want to progress to 2nd line as soon as possible.

The agent's role is to get you the interview, that's all. They cannot influence the future.

Originally posted by slinkydonkey View Post

He was very rude and said don't expect to be promoted in 6 months or even a year.

Don't worry about that. Agents have few career development options (slug --> resourcer --> agent --> team leader --> setting up on their own --> tapeworm) and don't really understand the IT industry and how you can job-hop every three months within an organisation.

Originally posted by slinkydonkey View Post

I've never seen an agency advertise a perm job at a max rate then change it

Then you cannot have applied for many permie roles. It really is very common.

Also, when a role is advertised as "£x to £y depending upon experience",you do know that means you get £x, don't you? Not "between £x and £y". That is quite unusual, especially at the 1st line support end of the scale.

Originally posted by slinkydonkey View Post

I'm tempted to tell him where to go to be honest.

You may as well; I think you may have cocked this one up by annoying the agent. You say you have seen this through agencies: apply through them.

**XperTest** · 16 November 2009, 10:46

What was it again? 4.100 applicants for a London helpdesk role?

**TheFaQQer** · 16 November 2009, 10:53

Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post

Also, when a role is advertised as "£x to £y depending upon experience",you do know that means you get £x, don't you? Not "between £x and £y". That is quite unusual, especially at the 1st line support end of the scale.

Actually, it's probably closer to £x - z where z is an arbitrary figure they deduct because your experience isn't that relevant.

**tim123** · 16 November 2009, 20:12

Originally posted by slinkydonkey View Post

Hello All

I don't like to use Hays It due to having bad expereince with them in the past.
I thought I would take a chance so I applied for a helpdesk role as it was on my home town and pay looked ok.

I have 2nd line support experience but this role was only 1st line support but it looks like they have a end line team there so I would want to move onto that fairly soon.

Anyway the agency phoned back and mentioned that max slary rate was below what was posted on jobserve. When I mentioned this to him he made some BS up about the system they use sends out the job spec to many sites so it had put the wrong max salary. When I said other agencys don't seem to have this problem he got really arsey with me saying look there are lots of other people interested in this job if you don't want it.

Im tempted to name and shame him here but I won't...yet.

I also told him if i have an interview i will tell them i want to progress to 2nd line as soon as possible. He was very rude and said don't expect to be promoted in 6 months or even a year.

I think there is a good change i will get an interview ive never seen an agency advertise a perm job at a max rate then change it seems very dodgy.

:

I have.

Almost every permi job that I have ever applied for had a real max salary about 20% below the figure that the agent stated.

It's one of the reasons I gave up applying for permi jobs (circa 1988)

tim

**MrMark** · 16 November 2009, 23:08

Originally posted by RichardCranium View Post

If I'd blacklisted every agency that had upset me, I don't think there'd be any left for me to use. There are worse agencies than Hays.

Very common for permie roles. They will take the top of the band, round it up, than add a lump sum to represent the value of the "package" of add-ons (pension, holiday, training, a chair). I expect a salary of £x to £y to mean £x to £y-5. They do it to attract people to apply. Agencies do it and so do employers.

Tip: he's an agent. They do that.

The agent's role is to get you the interview, that's all. They cannot influence the future.

Don't worry about that. Agents have few career development options (slug --> resourcer --> agent --> team leader --> setting up on their own --> tapeworm) and don't really understand the IT industry and how you can job-hop every three months within an organisation.

Then you cannot have applied for many permie roles. It really is very common.

Also, when a role is advertised as "£x to £y depending upon experience",you do know that means you get £x, don't you? Not "between £x and £y". That is quite unusual, especially at the 1st line support end of the scale.

You may as well; I think you may have cocked this one up by annoying the agent. You say you have seen this through agencies: apply through them.

I don't care what his policies are, I'm voting for Dick Cranium. Excellent post

recruiter changing the maximum salary range